Wave form is the landscape of the music... sort of like looking at the grooves of a vinyl. You can see where there's a breakdown, buildup, etc. I think with the 1000s you can zoom in on the wave form also (not 100% sure). It's helpful but not essential.

Yes, you can view the waveform on the 1000s but its not all that helpful. It shows the waveform of the entire song, so you can get an idea of where breakdowns are and so on. You can zoom in about 200% on the waveform. When you zoom in, displays a solid bar below the waveform to tell you where it is in the song, and the waveform moves to the left as time progresses. Its slow, but it moves.

Also when you are zoomed out at 100% there is a progress bar sort of thing below it to show you where you are in the song (instead of the waveform moving, the progress bar lengthens). In the last 20-30 seconds of the song, the bar begins to blink.

Again, it's not all that helpful, as you should know a song well enough not to need that. But then again, its not completely useless either.

I personally like the 800s better. Much cheaper and does the job just the same

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"Why the hell wont these beats match up????" - Me this one time

2 lazy to read through all the replys so ill just say this, beatcounterz suck nuts, no computer con acuretly guess what a bass beat will sound like since their different in every song, also besides this you can match 2 songs that dont have simmaler bpms even if you dont have 50% pitch control (youll be riding the pitch alot more but it works) but if you got the bpm in front of you then you will feel you cant, i have the vmx-200 which has bpm counters and i just tape em over cuz their so inacutit and it totally screws up my mixing anywahys thats all

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams This is to anyone that's spun with the CDJs. I am planning on purchasing 2 CDJ 800s. My question is this: Is the BPM counters on these CD players ACCURATE enough to fully rely on them to beatmatch? If the BPM counters are perfectly accurate then it would take away alot of the beatmatching difficulty. Can anyone comment on this, someone that's used these CD players to mix? Thanks!

it isnt a good idea to rely on the beat counter. if you are only goin gto dj for yourself and dont plan on spinning out, then just do it on the computer and save yoruself some money. if you plan to play at clubs, not everywhere has a beat counter. so you could find yourself in a tough situation if you rely on the beat counter, best advice is to put a piece of paper with tape over it, so you dont have to rely on it, or else it is just a waste of money to get it

Thanks for the advice guys. Good point Hadi ****** about not having BPM counters everywhere, I was just curious as to the accuracy of them, not because i'm not planning on beatmatching, of course I am, just curious as to how much they really helped the regular DJ. Thanks for replies! I'm going with the Pioneer CDJ800s, DJX700 mixer, and HDJ1000s!

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When I turn on my mixer, drop the needle, and put on my headphones... nothing else matters.

I am a DJ.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq No beat counters r accurate. And for a perfectly accurate one to be useful it would need at least 3 decimal places.

load the song into your comp, load it into acid pro 4.0, run the beatmap wizzard...gives you the bpm to .001

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