I think my initial reaction is utter embarrassment to be an American. Then I realized, hey, it's California, and a nice soothing peaceful calm swept over me.

All kidding aside, I guess I need to also look at this and see the reality that Californians were truly not happy with Davis. At least they are not happy with what their current state of affairs are, and they put much if not all the blame on Davis. No doubt, Davis deserves at least some of the blame. But as a centrist on this forum has pointed out earlier, much of the blame needs to be shouldered upon the people themselves. Some of their Propositions they have voted on in the past in regards to tax measures have come back to bite them in the ass, and they look towards Davis to blame. I would also think that the blame wholly onto Davis from their energy crisis a couple of years ago is a bit shortsighted. They also want to blame Davis for their job losses and outsourcing. If Californians would take a moment to look and realize that they aren't, in fact, the center of the universe, they would understand that their state is no different than most others in that aspect.

But all that doesn't matter now. The world's 6th largest economy belongs to a man with no political or economical experience whatsoever. A man who seems to be in cahoots with Ken Lay and will likely not prosecute Enron to get California's money back from which Mr. Lay had so easily stolen from them. You have a man who ran with vague details on his policies and very little platform, other than repealing the car tax.

Congratulations California, you got what you wanted. The question remains, are you going to want what you've got?

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Jesse Ventura actually had experience as an elected official before he became governor. He was Mayor for several years in the town he lives in outside of Minneapolis. He was also a Navy Seal Captain in Vietnam.

That's why I noted that this is much more entertaining. At least Mr. Ventura had some merit going into his campaign.

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Originally posted by UWM That's why I noted that this is much more entertaining. At least Mr. Ventura had some merit going into his campaign.

If I recall right, Ventura's stint as Governor wasn't terribly successful. He actually had to have some intelligence to run a state. Wonder why I fear for California?

Hey, I just realized that both guys were in the movie "Predator". Guess Carl Weathers is next to run somewhere.

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Woohoo, go Arnold!!!

I'm gonna dig out my green card right now and am moving to California as soon as I can!

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence I heard that 65 - 70% of the registered voters in California actually voted yesterday, the best turnout in two decades. My roommate thinks that less than 30% voted 11 months ago when Davis defeated Simon. I wonder if 65 - 70% had voted 11 months ago, the outcome would have been different. Do more people vote when the economy is bad, typically? Or just when the campaign is exciting?

More like the media shoved it down everyones throats, even non californians, but yeah Im glad the turn out was huge

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Ohhh my poor god... where in the world could this happend if not in the US... I really do feel sorry for all you califonians!

Thanks

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 I think my initial reaction is utter embarrassment to be an American. Then I realized, hey, it's California, and a nice soothing peaceful calm swept over me.

heh, personally I'd rather live no where else in america than this state

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Some of their Propositions they have voted on in the past in regards to tax measures have come back to bite them in the ass, and they look towards Davis to blame. I would also think that the blame wholly onto Davis from their energy crisis a couple of years ago is a bit shortsighted. They also want to blame Davis for their job losses and outsourcing. If Californians would take a moment to look and realize that they aren't, in fact, the center of the universe, they would understand that their state is no different than most others in that aspect.

Yes my state is full of morons, thanks for pointing it out LOL but yeah I agree everyone blamed Davis. No one even bothers bitching about Legislature, or the Senate. So democrats still have alot of power, cept that Arnold may settle the CA/Enron court case, we lose $9billion. He'll probaly attack unions, labor laws, and be more friendlier to business, even those who rip us off.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 But all that doesn't matter now. The world's 6th largest economy belongs to a man with no political or economical experience whatsoever. A man who seems to be in cahoots with Ken Lay and will likely not prosecute Enron to get California's money back from which Mr. Lay had so easily stolen from them. You have a man who ran with vague details on his policies and very little platform, other than repealing the car tax.

Yup, sadly not much of California knows this


san jose mercury news exit polls in pdf

Some intresting voting maps for the state:

Shall Gray Davis be recalled? all I can say is wtf is up with the non coast counties, are they fucking filled with smogged, and need a nice ocean breeze?

Candidates to succeed GRAY DAVIS imo only 17% of the state voted on good canidates

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Ohhh my poor god... where in the world could this happend if not in the US... I really do feel sorry for all you califonians!

what do u know about california?????
yet there is not any other state i would rather live in than california...thanks for the condolescence

i'm not exactly doing backflips for arnold winning but at least bruce daumante didn't win

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 I think my initial reaction is utter embarrassment to be an American. Then I realized, hey, it's California, and a nice soothing peaceful calm swept over me. All kidding aside, I guess I need to also look at this and see the reality that Californians were truly not happy with Davis. At least they are not happy with what their current state of affairs are, and they put much if not all the blame on Davis. No doubt, Davis deserves at least some of the blame. But as a centrist on this forum has pointed out earlier, much of the blame needs to be shouldered upon the people themselves. Some of their Propositions they have voted on in the past in regards to tax measures have come back to bite them in the ass, and they look towards Davis to blame. I would also think that the blame wholly onto Davis from their energy crisis a couple of years ago is a bit shortsighted. They also want to blame Davis for their job losses and outsourcing. If Californians would take a moment to look and realize that they aren't, in fact, the center of the universe, they would understand that their state is no different than most others in that aspect. But all that doesn't matter now. The world's 6th largest economy belongs to a man with no political or economical experience whatsoever. A man who seems to be in cahoots with Ken Lay and will likely not prosecute Enron to get California's money back from which Mr. Lay had so easily stolen from them. You have a man who ran with vague details on his policies and very little platform, other than repealing the car tax. Congratulations California, you got what you wanted. The question remains, are you going to want what you've got?

wow...you sure have a disdain for california...i guess living in kansas city takes it tolls

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 If I recall right, Ventura's stint as Governor wasn't terribly successful. He actually had to have some intelligence to run a state. Wonder why I fear for California? Hey, I just realized that both guys were in the movie "Predator". Guess Carl Weathers is next to run somewhere.

Actually it was not Jesse's level of intelligence that caused him problems. Jesse is a very smart and well-spoken individual. His stint as governor was hurt by the Republicans and Democrats in the legislature that were hell bent on making sure that an independent centrist governor was not successful. If an independent were able to be sucessful in such a position it would be devastating to the 2 parties' lock on political control of the country. And a "foe you know" is much easier to "fight" than one you don't.

Jesse was in "The Running Man" with Arnold as well.

MrS

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 wow...you sure have a disdain for california...

Not really, just a little jab at the Californian "I don't give a shit about the world around me" stereotype. Actually have a number of friends around LA and San Diego.

i guess living in kansas city takes it tolls [/QUOTE]

Who am I to argue? The Bible-Belt will do that to people. That coupled with heatwave muggy summers and bitter-ass cold winters - I guess there's a little bit of envy in my tone.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Jesse was in "The Running Man" with Arnold as well. MrS

Oh yeah, how could I forget? My money would still be on Carl Weathers over Richard Dawson for the next Governor.

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I yearn to shout,
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