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Originally posted by Freak I use my sonys 4 nights a week with no problems Yes eventually they will crack, but eventually sennheisers pop a cone or the lead snaps, etc etc Every pair has its ups and downs- they are all good phones- bottom line is you wont go wrong with any of them. If my sonys crack after a year ive still got 52 weeks x 4 nights of use out of them....more than happy with that

OIC. But on average, the Sonys break sooner than most other headphones do. (I'm talking about the current-model MDR-V###DJ series models here, such as the MDR-V600 and the MDR-V700DJ.) And when your Sonys break, depending on where you live at, you may have no choice but to buy a whole new pair - at full RRP. At least the Sennheisers' parts are user-replaceable.

go with Pioneer

I like the Sony's but they will break eventually...unless your that 1% of djs i know whose hasnt (yet)

Ok cha la cha la. i got both and used the 700's for 3 years straight with no problems. they were showing signs of wear and tear 2.5 years in so i decided to get the pioneer 1000's. if the 700's didn't wear and tear i would still be using them but what do you expect from headphons? to last 4eva? haha keep dreaming these companies are out to make money not lose it. any way. it all comes down to a personal preference/ear. 700's never cracked on me. and 1000's are great. test em out if you can. buy them both and check the return policy b4 hand to see if you can return for full cash refund. ect ect good luck. peace off.

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yeah i want to try the pioneers, but i live in thailand right now, and no place lets you buy them and return them, or try them in the store. kind of sucks.. but i know a guy who just ordered some from the US, so when they get here i can test them out. hopefully that'll help. thanks to everyone who replied!

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I just bought a pair of 1000's yesterday, and I'm about to take them back in about 5 minutes. I was using the Sony 600's, and actually liked them a lot. They are kind of big and klunky, but I was very happy with the quality of sound. Anyway, I had the money and decided to upgrade to the 1000s. I think, or at least hope that the ones I got were just defective, cause they suck. First of all, the left earphone is louder than the right. The sound is overall very very flat. I don't know if that's the technical term, but my Sony's seemed to have a much fuller sound, much easier to match beats, IMO. The main reason why I'm taking these back is that they have a very very low crackling noise that occurs when a song hits a long, high breakdown of sorts. I was playing AVB's Slipstream, and when that ambiance kicked in, I heard this faint static noise in the background. I hit theleft cup and it went away, and then 5 seconds later it came back aain. Hit it again, and it went away. I don't know if that's just the way the Pioneers are made, but these things are definitely not worth the $150 I spent for them if they are. Anyway, I'm taking them back after Ipost this, and am na go with the MDR-V700's.

Well, not everyone hears the same things. My experience with the Sonys is that they're WAY overpriced for the sound quality that they deliver. The MDR-V600, in particular, sound muddy, echoey, dull and lifeless all at the same time - and whatever bass coming out of that 'phone is loose and one-noted and doesn't go at all deep, and whatever treble excreted from it rings like an unmusical schoolbell. It would be an okay headphone - if it were priced at $20. But the typical superstore sells it at the full $100 MSRP! The MDR-V700DJ is almost as bad as the MDR-V600: Everything from the mid-bass through the midrange completely overpowers what little deep bass and upper midrange and treble that it delivers. And both of those Sonys have a strange peak in the mid-treble (roughly 10kHz), while leaving the frequencies surrounding the 10kHz region very recessed. Unfortunately, the frequencies that are recessed include the all-important upper midrange/lower treble region.

Sorry, guys, but neither the Sony MDR-V600 nor the MDR-V700DJ delivers enough upper midrange or lower treble response to hear the beats properly. And that upper midrange~lower treble region is very critical to beatmatching - even more so than emphasized mid-bass.

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Originally posted by ShadySlim Well, not everyone hears the same things. My experience with the Sonys is that they're WAY overpriced for the sound quality that they deliver. The MDR-V600, in particular, sound muddy, echoey, dull and lifeless all at the same time - and whatever bass coming out of that 'phone is loose and one-noted and doesn't go at all deep, and whatever treble excreted from it rings like an unmusical schoolbell. It would be an okay headphone - if it were priced at $20. But the typical superstore sells it at the full $100 MSRP! The MDR-V700DJ is almost as bad as the MDR-V600: Everything from the mid-bass through the midrange completely overpowers what little deep bass and upper midrange and treble that it delivers. And both of those Sonys have a strange peak in the mid-treble (roughly 10kHz), while leaving the frequencies surrounding the 10kHz region very recessed. Unfortunately, the frequencies that are recessed include the all-important upper midrange/lower treble region. Sorry, guys, but neither the Sony MDR-V600 nor the MDR-V700DJ delivers enough upper midrange or lower treble response to hear the beats properly. And that upper midrange~lower treble region is very critical to beatmatching - even more so than emphasized mid-bass.

so what would you recommend? the hdj1000s, or the sn 25 that ive heard so much about? or anything else? im interested to see what everyone thinks about the sonys/pioneers

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Originally posted by razzi so what would you recommend? the hdj1000s, or the sn 25 that ive heard so much about? or anything else? im interested to see what everyone thinks about the sonys/pioneers

Ooohh... Thailand... Uhm... what companies and models do you have readily available there?

i have no complaints about my sony 700s, just try to find someplace that sells them around cost. my friend works at a major electronics store and got me my 700s with his diso**** (which is like 5% above store cost or something) for $80. now im sorry but you cant beat that with a freaking stick.

SONY all the way...

and the new Pioneer phones that more and more DJ's begun to use - THEY ARE THE UGGLIEST PHONES I'VE EVER SEEN...of course quality is a bigger issue than looks, but they are waaay to big and sci-fi influenced...yuck...

I won't get rid of my 700's for a while...

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I own the Sony 700s and think they're excellent. Both headphones have almost the same specs, but I personally like the 700s 'cuz I do one-side monitoring. It's true that the Pioneer cups are smaller, but you really can't go wrong with either one. If you have more cash, go for the HDJ-1000. If not, go with the Sony's. Simple as that.

As for wear and tear, it's all up to the owner. All headphones will break down eventually. I've had my 700s for almost over a year now and I don't have any problems with it.

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