Gotta agree with Luke about the less phase on the thingy-ma-bob. It seems to be drawing my concentration away from the actual melody.

Still sounding great though. Can't fault anything else...

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to get deeper bass simply add a bass as a sub, something simple like one of the 3xOSC presets like pure bass 7 or 8 will do the trick, just make the note 2 16ths long and place it on the off kick...

eg.
kick x---x---x---x---
bass --BB--BB--BB-BB-

the bass is one whole note tho,

put the sub on a separate fx channel, 7 band eq is good to sort this, turn all but the 2 lowest freq. down and turn them up as necessary, make sure there is no delay or reverb on that.

u may want to do this on proper stereo speakers or summat so can compare the low frequences accurately to other songs.

also, lose the shakers, they are well fruity

and don't be scared to boost the bass of the lead aswell as the mid to give it more bite

if u wanna do a collab i'd be more than willing to abuse you at every step of the way

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good remix, well done wim-always impressing.
i think what people are trying to say is as good as the icone sound is, maybe a different approach and sounds (i.e kick shakers 16ths basses instead of sub basses or off basses)
also, the compression on the latest icone tracks seem very crunchy...if this is the word-maybe a more cleaner softer trance sound-less harsh?

but i love all icone stuff anyway...these are just some useless comments

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Luke :: I will try that mate, thanks! I did add some sub bass already to some tracks, but due to compression it doesn't always come through as it should. Perhaps I shouldn't compress it at all? I didn't know shakers could be 'fruity'... It's not any fruity samples hehe. But I see what you're getting at.

John :: I see your point mate. I did use some different synths in this one I thought? Gotta check out that T-Racks preset, it is causing me nothing but trouble so it seems on that compression thing...

You gotta fill me in on those basses though, cause I have not too much knowledge of that "pro-music-talk"

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hehe, its not pro at all wim, more like rubbish talk :P

basically most of ur icone tracks have basses in a 16th pattern arpeggiator?
like in 1 kick
|--|--|--|--|
b b b b

some times its interesting to randomly place softer bass notes and put loads of delay on them and it usually sounds better than an aggressive gouryella/icone style du dun ni ni bass
if u get me .
more bass synth and less bass bass.

that might sound dumb....but it works!

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Nice work on this one Wim... very trancey... very smooth, well produced... this is my first time hearing anythig under 'Icone' and I must say I like it!

Any other aliases you're using now?

John :: my basses don't really have arps, some of them have; others just have a similar structure, but more something from the top of my head. I'll give it a shot, thanks!

Boy Trance :: thanls mate, glad you like it. i'm not using any of my other aliases right now actually, today everything is 'icone'

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Here's some pictures of basslines I used in Icone tracks :

http://users.skynet.be/lightworks/basslines.zip

HI!!

nice song again hope we can njoy the full release too


tip from me : delete these snare sounds i totally know it!! listen trance made in 2003 no snare and reverse cymbals

replace these samples or LAYER these with different sounds

i do that in my trax already about half of year and i love it!!


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sebra

Top notch stuff as usual

Stick to THIS sound Wim, itll be worth it in the end....

Sebraaa12 :: thanks for the idea and your comment! it's not that because they don't use it that's it's forbidden though. i don't know about snarerolls, but i do hear alot of reversed cumbals lately

Bryan :: thanks mate, i'll do my best.

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quote:

Originally posted by Sebraaa12 HI!! nice song again hope we can njoy the full release too tip from me : delete these snare sounds i totally know it!! listen trance made in 2003 no snare and reverse cymbals replace these samples or LAYER these with different sounds i do that in my trax already about half of year and i love it!! -- sebra

I'm sorry, I disagree with that entirely. Just because the TYPE of trance you listen to doesn't have SNARES in it, doesn't mean that ALL types don't. Lightworks will put together whatever HE likes to listen to, and what sounds right to him.