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Originally posted by TwiloNYC I much prefer the rotaries because of its smoothness and control. I dont like the linear feel of channel line faders.... If I need a fast cut, then I'd use the x-fader or channel gains.

I agree, rotaries make more for a seamless mix, while faders are somewhat unstable.

1) like I already said, rotary faders have a linear course all the way to 100%. Most linear faders have either logarithmic, or pseudo linear (linear most of the way, except between 80% and 100% where an "acceleration" occurs).

2) you shouldn't confound regular mixers with the original rotaries. Mixers like the DJM3000 with a rotary kit are basically the same mixer with rotary faders (duh).

The "real" rotaries like the Bozak/Urei/Xone (and to some extent Rane also) are made with the "less is better" approach. They try to get the highest quality components in it and only what is necessary, to ensure the cleanest possible signal chain. That's why they cost a lot (high quality components) and if you want extra features (like 3band EQ on each channel) you gotta pay extra for it, because you start with a clean base, and if you want extra components (so possibly extra signal chain "pollution") it's your own decision (and money).

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Originally posted by Vert The statements you made were pretty basic, you did not indicate why it matters? You do know that pioneer puts out a rotary kit for it right? es

putting rotorary knobs on the Pioneer is not going to make it sound any better.. The internals of the mixer are still the same... A djm 3000 w/ knobs will not sound as good as a real rotary mixer.
Real rotorary mixers are built for sound clarity and quality.. They are much smoother than a linear fader mixer. For sound clarity nothing is going to beat a true rotary mixer.

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Cool thing about the Rane MP2016 is that it has the XP2016 controller optional, but very useful. It has the three band eq, but most important to this topic, it includes a crossfader, so you can optionally choose rotary or crossfader.

As mentioned before, its about what type of style you have and music you spin. Some mixes for me at least, require faster cuts (better with fader), others require smoother fading (better with rotary knobs).

Also, what is nice feature is when a mixer has the contour control for its fader. With that you control the tightness (sharper) or looseness (softer) of the fade. Again, this is just more control, which allows you to customize it to your specific preference.

I tend to like faders 'cuz I'm not strictly just a trance/breaks DJ. Gotta love the battle breaks and old skool freestyle.

I wanna try out that new Stanton Mixer...the SA_5.



As you can see, all faders no rotary knobs.

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Originally posted by pumavisor808 putting rotorary knobs on the Pioneer is not going to make it sound any better.. The internals of the mixer are still the same... A djm 3000 w/ knobs will not sound as good as a real rotary mixer. Real rotorary mixers are built for sound clarity and quality.. They are much smoother than a linear fader mixer. For sound clarity nothing is going to beat a true rotary mixer.

Rotary doesn't necessarily mean sound quality, it means that it has rotary faders. Now if its made by companies with high quality, then yes it would. But adding faders to a pioneer makes it a rotary mixer just as much as any other rotary. It may not sound as good, but that still doesn't negate its 'rotaryness'.

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