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Lytchix
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Paris, France
Re: Re: Re: over-rated, under-rated. football players.

quote:
Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
Jean Claude Darchville, who used to play for Nottm Forest was clocked as the fastest player in the english premier league about3 years ago...


He plays @ Bordeaux, France.
This is a better club than Nottingham Forest.

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TiestoFanMatt
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
Re: Re: Re: Re: over-rated, under-rated. football players.

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Originally posted by Lytchix
He plays @ Bordeaux, France.
This is a better club than Nottingham Forest.


HAHA that aint hard

Im a derby fan so haha yea!!!

He is very fast though, you ever seen him run, he is like lightening!

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A.J.
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Sydney

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Id say henry is definitely 1 of the most overrated players in the epl, at least in the english newspapers and on tv. Good teamwork yes but hes only a bit faster than rvn, his finishing doesnt come close to rvns, and hes nowhere near as good at dribbling as some people say. He rarely goes past people through good footwork, he just runs past them.


You have to be joking!!!!! Henry is the form player of the EPL.Do you even follow it properly? In case you haven't noticed, RVN sits up the front, waits for the ball to come to him, and then he finishes. He is outstanding at that, i admit. However, Henry has had several assists already this year. He is a superb player.He is extremely fast, he is elusive and he is a class finisher.

HENRY for most underrated player.

Most overrated: Ronaldo (Man Utd) for sure. He has done nothing. Sure, he is good at fancy tricks and driblling, but he has not yet gained the maturity to know when to pass the ball before its too late. He often loses the ball by holding on to it for too long. I think this season he has had one assist in EPL and and one goal. That is not saying much. I say until he starts doing something, he is not worth the hype.


P.S. If you want to play with the big men, go to http://fantasy.premierleague.com to pick your ultimate team.

Old Post Nov-16-2003 16:58  Australia
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DJ-Fuq
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quote:
Originally posted by Vigilante
You have to be joking!!!!! Henry is the form player of the EPL.Do you even follow it properly?


Yes

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In case you haven't noticed, RVN sits up the front, waits for the ball to come to him, and then he finishes.


Bit of an exaggeration

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He is outstanding at that, i admit. However, Henry has had several assists already this year. He is a superb player.


I know.

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He is extremely fast, he is elusive and he is a class finisher.


Hes still overrated. Arse fans act like hes the best striker in the world or something. Hes about 6th best.



quote:
HENRY for most underrated player.




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Most overrated: Ronaldo (Man Utd) for sure. He has done nothing. Sure, he is good at fancy tricks and driblling, but he has not yet gained the maturity to know when to pass the ball before its too late. He often loses the ball by holding on to it for too long. I think this season he has had one assist in EPL and and one goal. That is not saying much. I say until he starts doing something, he is not worth the hype.


What hype? Hes not overrated, because not many people rate him highly. Hes nowhere near good enough for united first team.

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Re: Re: Re: over-rated, under-rated. football players.

I tried to reply to this ages ago but couldnt because of posting problems

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Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
Henry is fuckign amazing. If you watch the EPL week in week out,


I watch every match that i can

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if he and Viera are both on form then Arsenal imo are the best team in the world to watch. They're movement, skill, techneque, i have not seen a team who can rip a team apart as Arsenal can.



Obviously u have never watched a game with real madrid/milan/man utd/valencia/juventus etc on form.
In the first half of last season arsenal did play some very nice football at times (better than united, untill they played them). I liked watching it. But their problem is, unlike the teams i mentioned, they just cant play like that against teams that are as good or better.

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Henry is also a honest player, he rarely goes down under a challenge and tries to score when he can, even if he is being clattered down. A good example of that is in last years FA Cup, i think against southampton? in the first few minutes, their defender lunged in and all henry had to do is fall over, the bloke would have been red carded and a penalty awared, he went on to have his shot saved i think, but it is very rare nowadays where the thirst for players scoring goals takes over their ability to, imo, cheat! He is rated fairly in england, but underated in Europe, but the thing is, its only my opinion.


Yes i saw that and was pleasantly surprised he didnt go down, especially considering he plays with the biggest bunch of cheats and thugs in the epl.

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sleepydragon
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ronaldo is better now than he has ever been so dont know what ur on about there
overrated - totti, beckham, owen

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chesco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

francesco totti gets nothing but stick from the majority of people so i do't see how hes over-rated.

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Romain
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: MN-TA-FR

yeah Henry is underrated... he's such a great player
He must be one of the fastest, and is honest and know how to play...

In France he's fairly rated, in each of the match he plays for France his name is shouted anywhere in the stadium...
he's only 26, so he'll get even better, and i'm sure he'll soon be fairly rated anywhere in the world as one of the top footballers.


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TiestoFanMatt
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Re: Re: Re: Re: over-rated, under-rated. football players.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq

Obviously u have never watched a game with real madrid/milan/man utd/valencia/juventus etc on form.
In the first half of last season arsenal did play some very nice football at times (better than united, untill they played them). I liked watching it. But their problem is, unlike the teams i mentioned, they just cant play like that against teams that are as good or better.


Iv seen United play and i am not convinced that hey can break a team down like Arsenal can.Iv watched all the teams in Europe and none to me at the moment seem amazing. Real Madrid should IMO win the comp everyear with the players they have.

U remember arsenal beating Roma on their soil ? Roma were a good team? I also thing they'll do the business against Inter away from home.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: over-rated, under-rated. football players.

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Iv seen United play and i am not convinced that hey can break a team down like Arsenal can.


Did u read my whole post?
Arsenal cant 'break down' convincingly teams that are (nearly) as good as them. Thats why they went into liverpoo mode last time they played united. They wouldve got rolled if they tried any fancy shit.
Dont u remember united beating newcastle 6-2? Newcastle r a good team and they definitely didnt play badly.

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Iv watched all the teams in Europe and none to me at the moment seem amazing. Real Madrid should IMO win the comp everyear with the players they have.


But they cant break down teams like arsenal can?

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U remember arsenal beating Roma on their soil ? Roma were a good team?


I didnt see the first leg against roma. I assumed they just played crap, because arsenal arent that much better than them.
But i saw the 2nd, when totti didnt even touch (or mightve lightly) keown yet he went down like mount everest fell on top of him. I doubt arse-anal wouldve got a draw if romas best player wasnt sent off so early.

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I also thing they'll do the business against Inter away from home.


I dont think theyll get beat by 3 goals again, dunno if theyll win tho.

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A.J.
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Sydney

Veron was over-rated....dammit i bought him in fantasy premier league at the start


that was a dumb move


http://www.premierleague.com

go to it!!!

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NYCTrancefan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Underrated for me has to be the Portuguese National Team with Figo, Conceicao, Rui Costa. I know, they often stink in international big stages but I look forward to Euro 2004 in Portugal, will be rooting for them all the way.


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