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Originally posted by xKaoSx Freak- Do you have a link to that video thats in your avatar? That thing cracks me the fuck up. Thanks

erm....its the old levis advert (stating the obvious but i dont know if you got the same advert in the states..) with flat eric...that tune went to number one in the charts over here actually...lol

Erm...i *might* have the whole ad/video on a cd somewhere- seem to remember it was included on a covermount disc a few years back...ill have a look.....

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Originally posted by Freak erm....its the old levis advert (stating the obvious but i dont know if you got the same advert in the states..) with flat eric...that tune went to number one in the charts over here actually...lol Erm...i *might* have the whole ad/video on a cd somewhere- seem to remember it was included on a covermount disc a few years back...ill have a look.....

Thank you sir-

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Originally posted by starglider Fair enough, but the bottom line is when you compress to mp3, you're losing part of the original audio -- no plug-in can restore that.

you're right. no plug-in can ever restore what's been removed for the compression technique. however, it can produce and fill those missing frequencies. it uses a combination of effects and enhancement logarithms. of course it won't sound like the original recording once you run it through the plug-in. it will however make it sound pretty damn good as compared to the mp3 un-enhanced version, especially in the low end and high end frequencies. enough so that you can play it in a club and it will sound good. you see once you apply effects to say an mp3 that has nothing below 25 hertz, which is ultra low bass, even though there is nothing in that frequency range the effects you apply will still produce results in those ranges if you set them up to. things like flange, bass enhancement and especially chorusing. a spectral enhancer just takes that 2 steps further. there's a lot you can do to an mp3 to make it sound good if you actually know how to produce, downmix, master and properly use an eq. hell, i've been doing stuff like this for years and i'm still learning all the time.

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Is there only a loss of quality for mp3's or does it also include Cds purchased from the store? or are you just talking about burned Cds? And what would be the difference between a Cd purchased at the store and a burned CD? Is it because the difference in the quality of a song is lost when it is encoded into MP3 format? Basically I am just interested if anyone could explain to me how a "real" CD is made differently from a burned CD. Please only reply if you know what you are talking about... thanks in advance

it's just the mp3s burned to a cd. the mp3 encoding/compression process removes information. you have to convert the mp3 to wav and then manipulte it with eq's and such to get a decent sound. if you just convert the mp3 and burn then it will sound pretty crappy. cheers.

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Originally posted by Localsky Is there only a loss of quality for mp3's or does it also include Cds purchased from the store? or are you just talking about burned Cds? And what would be the difference between a Cd purchased at the store and a burned CD? Is it because the difference in the quality of a song is lost when it is encoded into MP3 format? Basically I am just interested if anyone could explain to me how a "real" CD is made differently from a burned CD. Please only reply if you know what you are talking about... thanks in advance

Well, with a burned CD, you don't know what you get.

Has the music been compressed (and lost information) at any point during the process? How well was it ripped? Were the songs ever turned into mp3 format at any point in time? Were they even ripped properly into .wav's in the first place?

With a store-bought CD, you have the original source that is as good as the recording engineers and studio engineers made it.

What is the original source or format before it is pressed by the manufacturer? Is it wave format? Will wave format even fit on a CD? Hypothetically, if someone ripped a CD perfectly could the quality almost equal a store bought CD? Thanks in advance.

Greg

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Originally posted by Localsky What is the original source or format before it is pressed by the manufacturer? Is it wave format? Will wave format even fit on a CD? Hypothetically, if someone ripped a CD perfectly could the quality almost equal a store bought CD? Thanks in advance. Greg

a .wav format will fit on a cd. the tracks on cds *are* in the .wav format. they are 16bit 44.1khz .wav files on a proprietary formatted file system.

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Originally posted by VIO a .wav format will fit on a cd. the tracks on cds *are* in the .wav format. they are 16bit 44.1khz .wav files on a proprietary formatted file system.

not to nit pick.. but tracks on a cd are not in .wav format.. .wav (WAVeform) is a audio format party created by microsoft.

audio cd's (CDDA) is actually its own format. .wav is just a common way to transfer audio between the windows os and cdr media(since .wav maintains 44.1 kHz sampling at 16 bits ).

where can you get this plugin?

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Originally posted by qfx not to nit pick.. but tracks on a cd are not in .wav format.. .wav (WAVeform) is a audio format party created by microsoft. audio cd's (CDDA) is actually its own format. .wav is just a common way to transfer audio between the windows os and cdr media(since .wav maintains 44.1 kHz sampling at 16 bits ).

you're right, i didn't write that post correctly. both the wav and cdda are just different implimentations of the "pcm" format and are virtually identical. this also holds true for the mac aiff files. while cdda can only be encoded using pcm, wav and aiif can also be encoded using dpcm and adpcm formats. both of which are a compressed form of the pcm format. nice catch qfx. way to keep me on my toes! cheers.

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