next question jdjd and omega (thnx dudes uve been a great help) when it comes to smoking which im planning to give up does it have any effect on fat or anything when it comes to workin out (other then cardio, which i must say is really weird cause my cardio is 10x better then anyone else i know and i smoke a pack every 2 days)

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy next question jdjd and omega (thnx dudes uve been a great help) when it comes to smoking which im planning to give up does it have any effect on fat or anything when it comes to workin out (other then cardio, which i must say is really weird cause my cardio is 10x better then anyone else i know and i smoke a pack every 2 days)

Not directly, but as you said, normally it will affect your ability to do cardio for extended periods. I used to smoke, and I'm still working on building up my lung capacity, I get winded fairly quick.

You'd be surprised how many people are cut and smoke as soon as they leave the gym. As long as you stay active it's not a huge deterent, but don't expect to get in perfect condition while smoking. The only benefit of smoking is it normally reduces your appetite and will make you shit more. Don't get me wrong tho, you're much better off quitting, hehe.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Buy a 12 pack and only drink half? MrS

i have died laughing.

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Do you guys have any idea of how muscle is developed?

ill tell you. Muscle fibers are on or off. You have to trigger them to spasm. After a while they become worn out/torn. Theyll figure out they either need to get more endurance or more strength. More strength makes them bigger. More endurance tends to slice excess off. 1000 crunches a day will make what little muscle you have compact into a ball and the only way to see it will be through 4% fat. You need to MASS!!

So either do crunches with a 25 lb plate, or my favorite (if youre at a gym) take the tricep rope put the machine up to 190 and do 6 sets of 10 bends from your knees. just use your abs. itll take a bit to figure out how not to use your arms and back but when you do...HOO BOY. That builds mass AND expands your thorasic cavity making the waist line all the more impressive.

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Originally posted by Evil_Gnome pics or stfu! i have been wanting to say this forever!

and you left it til some guy was talking about his chest

wtf?

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Originally posted by joeh and you left it til some guy was talking about his chest wtf?

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

awesome

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Originally posted by Orbax Do you guys have any idea of how muscle is developed? ill tell you. Muscle fibers are on or off. You have to trigger them to spasm. After a while they become worn out/torn. Theyll figure out they either need to get more endurance or more strength. More strength makes them bigger. More endurance tends to slice excess off. 1000 crunches a day will make what little muscle you have compact into a ball and the only way to see it will be through 4% fat. You need to MASS!!

Dont start acting like you know everything and then write that completely wrong paragraph...
In fairness your excercise suggestions are good...

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Originally posted by jdjd Dont start acting like you know everything and then write that completely wrong paragraph... In fairness your excercise suggestions are good...

Uhm, thats Shwarzenegger talking. He probably doesnt know what hes talking about though.

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Originally posted by Orbax Uhm, thats Shwarzenegger talking. He probably doesnt know what hes talking about though.

probably not heh. dont mean to rag on you man but i think schwarzenegger never made much money on training people for a good reason. his encyclopedia has rountines where you are squatting mon/wed/fri and deadlifting tues/thurs/sat... thats insane

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Originally posted by jdjd probably not heh. dont mean to rag on you man but i think schwarzenegger never made much money on training people for a good reason. his encyclopedia has rountines where you are squatting mon/wed/fri and deadlifting tues/thurs/sat... thats insane

He has 3 levels of exercising. Im not even at level 1 yet. His is a bodybuilders routine.

the reason he didnt make money training is because he was too busy winner Mr Olympia and Universe and then he quit and made million in real estate in the 70s and then made movies. hehe.

anyways point being. Ive been working out for about 3 years now, and his principles are incredibly solid. Use those with his exercises that you see fit and you cant lose. Just takes time to establish exactly what your body needs in way of diet + exercises. Most of the time the key is going to be more in mixing up routines knowledgably and not plateauing like a mudda fugga. All im gonna say though is im insanely happy with my body, and I owe it to this book.

Just 1 mans opinion.

true he does have alot of great info, im surprised anyone can gain from his training routines tho... congrats
remember he wrote most of that 20 years ago, excercise science has progressed alot in that time (tho we still know comparitively very little)

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