oh and I usually play the tracks out from the beginning, and i just start them ahead of time and the way most trance tracks are they are all sectioned, and all sections are pretty much the same on all tracks. Its kinda hard to explain... But yeah, i keep the track that im gonna mix in next running till i feel that its right to either slowly mix or just flip the fader depends on what im mixin.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith I have the bad habit of touching the platter or spindle to speed it up/slow it down. this is noticeable in the song, especially if strings or a melody or continous tone is playing, you hear a noticeable warble in the song. the better way to to it is to "ride" the pitch by putting it slightly up/down, then back again. this is much less noticeable, and less risky because the record is less likely to skip. however, i always end up overcorrecting with this method, and having to ride the pitch the whole mix! practice makes perfect i suppose.

you have to play with the pitch sliders , you shouldn't touch the record or the platter if your in a mix

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Originally posted by Arsalan you have to play with the pitch sliders , you shouldn't touch the record or the platter if your in a mix

that isn't true, i do both + there is no rules to say wot u can + cant do

i can get an ok lock in 5-6s or so i would say, about 10 beats, then its just minor ajustments which take from about 30s to the whole tune.

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Originally posted by Arsalan you have to play with the pitch sliders , you shouldn't touch the record or the platter if your in a mix

the problem i have sometimes, is deciding which way to move the slider. slower or faster to fix it.

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this is it.

takes me roughly on avergage 30 sec.. there comes times where i have to match them on the fly, and i do. its maybe once every 5 records, where i can take my headphones off and just stand and watch the records mix them selves. its truly an art, and liek the other guy said practice makes perfect

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You guys bring up a lot of points that are good.

In my experience (and that's about 16-17 years worth) I have learned that it has very little to do with your correction techniques and everything to do with how you hear the need for correction. Ultimately you should be training your ears to hear it early enough so that when you have to make a correction it's a minor one.

There is however a technical reason why "riding" the pitch may be better in some instances. If you are prone to being heavy handed on the deck platter you can actually affect the overall pitch that the deck is spinning for a time before it returns back to it's prior speed. This is however very subtle and is probably not actually going to affect your mix on the whole.
What you may notice is that if you tend to rely on touching the platter in a heavy fashion, is that everytime you do this all the bedroom DJs in the audience will look up and then speak to their mates and tell them that they could have done it better. Club Djing and Bedroom DJing are not the same however.

I use mainly pitch correction and the occasional spindle tweak. Another technique that I use is lightly spinning my index finger on the lable. This is useful if you need to gain a little bit of speed but don't want to tamper with the pitch. Another thing you can do with 33s that can be very useful if you have Technics is holding down the 33 button and giving the 45 a quick tap (It takes a bit of practice but is very useful once you master it).

With regards to how long it takes to match. Well, I often know the pitch before I put the record on the turntable give or take a little bit. Not because I write it down or anything but becuase of repetition. Sounds odd, but sometimes you can just feel what it needs to be. This is also true for corrections. Sometimes you can know what you need to do before it becomes apparent.

How fast you do it isn't really that important, speed will come in time. Getting it right is quite important but getting the track selection right is everything.
Practice is the only answer.

Cheers
Nem

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I never thought about holding down the 33 button and giving the 45 a quick tap.. that sounds like a wonderful way to get your mixes matched. i'm gonna go try it right now.. thanks for the tip!

pEy

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yeah, that's an interesting tip. I suppose you could do it the other way and slow it down too.

also, another thing you can do (if you have M3Ds) is tap the reset button, to get the pitch to momentarily come closer to 0.

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Heya JohnSmith,

Sadly it does not work in reverse as in hold down 45 and tap 33. Not sure why but it doesn't.
I suppose that would just be making a DJs life too easy.

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Originally posted by diesel0 I've only been spinnin for about 8 days now but Ive learned to beatmatch

Holy shit 8 days and you can already beatmatch, WOW good for you .

NEMESIS- Everything you always said it's just perfect and soooo well explained .
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith actually, i notice you said you were "+0.005 or -0.005 off" how do you know that? just a guess? or are you using CD decks that are that precise? I suppose with CD decks it could be possible to have the perfect beatmatch, as they are analogue not digital.

2 quick points.....cd decks are not analogue....they are digital.

even if you have the most precise cd players right now you can still only adjust by +/-.02%
therefore if you are playing a 135 bpm song the most you can change the pitch by is

135 X .02% = 0.027

this is the smallest amount by which you can adjust the bpm of a song using cd players.

how do you know you are getting within .005? thats pretty damn inpressive. at that accuracy you could hold a mix out for 10 minutes and it still would not be more than .05 bpm off. is this right?

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