hint for all future dealings: Treat her like someone you kind of dont want to talk to, someone who calls and you see who it is and think "i hope they leave a message, but ill call em back in a while, dont feel like talkin right now" sometimes its a day or two. Think how pumped you are after a girl you like but havent talked to in half a week/a week calls, youre excited, youre glad she called.

Reciprocate, make her week with your calls

anywoo, heres your solution: http://www.bitchmakemeasandwich.com/

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Originally posted by DigiNut It's either a game or utter stupidity, sure, but why did you call her back so fast? You make it look like you have endless free time and nothing else to do when she's not around. She didn't even leave a message and you called back an hour later? Yeeeeesh, don't act like a high-schooler with a crush. One thing I don't get - exactly how did she "just wake up" after you finished dinner?

I dunno I'm sort of a people whore guess I always call you back, maybe Its outta habbit from back in the days when I sold weed. I was just askin cuz I thought it was one of those "test" and I guess I was freakin out cuz I've never been put through this one(if its a test at all). She was just waking up beacause she was taking a disco nap cuz she planned on driving an hour and a half to some Death Metal Concert she was gunna be a dancer on the stage or something.

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Originally posted by Beat_Chemist I dunno I'm sort of a people whore guess I always call you back, maybe Its outta habbit from back in the days when I sold weed. I was just askin cuz I thought it was one of those "test" and I guess I was freakin out cuz I've never been put through this one(if its a test at all). She was just waking up beacause she was taking a disco nap cuz she planned on driving an hour and a half to some Death Metal Concert she was gunna be a dancer on the stage or something.

Nah, after having thought about this for an hour now, I doubt it's really a test. If it was, there would be A LOT more drama involved than you've shown us.

I agree with Orbax though - you want her to be happy when you call, if you make it a routine she'll get tired of it.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox IMO, i dont think she was trying to test you, may be just a mistake I was reading something the other day that might be of interest to you: http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsm...ing_advice.html

WTF is that website. I just read that whole thing and its a bunch of b.s. I don't do any of that shit, and it offends me that you all keep thinking all we're doing is playing games when in fact its you guys! If in doubt, read my thread about "asshole of the year" and you'll see.

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Originally posted by anuneventrade WTF is that website. I just read that whole thing and its a bunch of b.s. I don't do any of that shit, and it offends me that you all keep thinking all we're doing is playing games when in fact its you guys! If in doubt, read my thread about "asshole of the year" and you'll see.

Not all girls do this. Some dont play the stupid games, other do it because it pisses me off. Well havent met any this lately anyways.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox Not all girls do this. Some dont play the stupid games, other do it because it pisses me off. Well havent met any this lately anyways.

I'm just irritated, because somehow females get the blame that we play the games. If in fact we do play games its because they were played against us, in which, most cases, we don't bother to anyway, because its just a waste of energy. Granted, there are a lot of them that do, and thats why they're single. But there are cases that don't and are single (like me).

Games? Lets talk about games. How about the.... I'm not going to answer my phone when I have it on me all the time and I see you're calling instead of just saying hey lemme call you back game? (this is of course, the when I've been seeing you for months) Or the... Let me call you right back and I never do game? Or, this is my favorite, Let me blame everything on you game? (Well, I WOULDN'T have done/said that, but you were being such a bitch (when in fact, it was he that was in the wrong but feels the need to blame you)). Or, the "I'm the happiest I've ever been, but, its not working out, game? Or the, I'm going to keep pictures of my ex girlfriends "posing" for me when I know that it makes you cry but they're just pictures game?

None of these "games" that we supposedly play are half as bad as yours. I, myself don't play any games, because they're pointless, and hardly worth my time. But don't make it out to seem as though females are the fucking enemy.

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Originally posted by anuneventrade WTF is that website. I just read that whole thing and its a bunch of b.s. I don't do any of that shit, and it offends me that you all keep thinking all we're doing is playing games when in fact its you guys! If in doubt, read my thread about "asshole of the year" and you'll see.

welp upon reading you thread, I am still pretty in the dark but it appears that you could POSSIBLY be an exception to the rules. That there is meant for the hot snooty girls, or the ones that think they are. I'll have to admit tho I've only met 2 girls out of over 500 that were an exception to this rule. The rest even the extremely ugly ones would test in various ways usually its more subtle the worse they looked and less frequent, but EZ to spot and more frequent the hotter they were. Its all about the "pussy control" as prince says. lol

As for you post I'd like to say it sounds like you picked poorly, but you might have found out to late or choose to ignore the warning signs. I think the that site doesn't detail the fact that sometimes girls test to see if the guy would be this kind of guy. I noticed girls will test sometimes to see if you loyal. Cuz she's thinking I wanna keep this guy around will he keep me around.

Really I will have to admit that both men and women pick poorly based on what they deem to be important. I noticed for women it lookks doesn't matter as much as how a guys personality is structured. Really for hot guys yes, they may get approached often but if they don't have the silver tongue or the things a woman likes they often get bypassed. Guys with the silver tongue are the ones you don't want to date. But they are the ones that get the most puss. Being a guy and having a shit ton of guy friends I find that all the nice, loyal, intellignet, ez going ones stay home and wack off night after night, where as, the ones that pretend they are all those things but aren't, and have a silver tongue to make you laugh, to make you get emotional, are the ones that score the most. Whats worse is the better they are the more of an asshole thye are. I have a friend thats at the figure of over 300 women, (i keep telling this guy he needs to write a book), but he's an asshole he stopped another DJ 2 records in because people were diggin that guys set more than his.

Guys aren't an exception of picking girls for stoopid reasons. Guys are after pussy, with maybe the exception of 1 of my hundreds of friends. But they bitch and complain they don't get any, welp, either change what your after or lower your standards. Its the hot ones that will fuck you over, the fugly ones that won't. I try to stick with women in the ranks of 6-8, i find 9-10 too superficial most of the time, it does take a lot of time to look that good, so much so thats all they got. An 8 thats good is one that doesn't care about her looks but looks 8, cuz you know when she dresses up she'll be one of those 10's. Fact is the hotter they are the more times they get hit on in one day. Infact i bet it gets to thier heads eventually, and they create thier own reality. The less hot they are chances are the less they get hit one. Meaning when you step in it will mean more.

Welp I do so enjoy pissing people off with my jargon but I don't have any more time so I'll be in my office studying for my exam
ciao!

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Originally posted by anuneventrade I'm just irritated, because somehow females get the blame that we play the games. If in fact we do play games its because they were played against us, in which, most cases, we don't bother to anyway, because its just a waste of energy. Granted, there are a lot of them that do, and thats why they're single. But there are cases that don't and are single (like me). Games? Lets talk about games. How about the.... I'm not going to answer my phone when I have it on me all the time and I see you're calling instead of just saying hey lemme call you back game? (this is of course, the when I've been seeing you for months) Or the... Let me call you right back and I never do game? Or, this is my favorite, Let me blame everything on you game? (Well, I WOULDN'T have done/said that, but you were being such a bitch (when in fact, it was he that was in the wrong but feels the need to blame you)). Or, the "I'm the happiest I've ever been, but, its not working out, game? Or the, I'm going to keep pictures of my ex girlfriends "posing" for me when I know that it makes you cry but they're just pictures game? None of these "games" that we supposedly play are half as bad as yours. I, myself don't play any games, because they're pointless, and hardly worth my time. But don't make it out to seem as though females are the fucking enemy.

Hey - that sucks, but I think we're all on different wavelengths here. I don't think anyone was trying to say that guys don't also make bad choices or play stupid games, but since the thread consisted of a guy asking for advice on a girl that might have been doing that, the response isn't likely to consist of ways in which guys can be assholes.

I consider there to be 3 different guys of games:

1. The "dating game" where there is no pre-existing relationship ("Pre-existing" is hard to define, but for the sake of argument, let's call a "pre-existing" relationship one where neither person is seriously interested in pursuing anybody else). I used to hate this, but I understand it as kind of a necessary evil. People don't show their true colours at first - it's not even necessarily an intentional thing, but it just takes time to get comfortable. I think this is more about establishing the positions and roles in a relationship than about personality. Now, depending on the people involved, those games could end after a week, they could go on for a few months (that's normal), or if one or both parties are particularly immature, they could just never stop.

2. What I call the "not-dating" game, and this is something that women do a lot more than men, and the reason why men play the games in (1). There are those types who are just flirts, attention whores, who lead people on despite having absolutely zero interest in the person who's pursuing them. Guys do this too, but women are more adept at knowing when a guy's not interested than vice versa, and also generally have less patience for this. These games suck, and they are what make (1) a necessary evil. I am sure that there are many girls out there who don't play these games, but unfortunately, guys don't know who they are, so it's common sense for us to test the water before getting too whipped.

3. The worst game - the "breakup" game. For the women, it's based on "I don't want to fuck you anymore, but I'd still like to keep you around for company and emotional support." For the men, it's more "I don't want your company and emotional support anymore, but I still don't mind fucking once in a while" (AKA "friends with benefits"). These games are the ones that totally suck ass, and they happen because one person doesn't have the guts to make a clean break. I personally don't think anybody should have to be subjected to these, because they are totally unnecessary and hinge entirely upon someone's insecurity.

Mind games that happen after a pre-existing relationship, truly suck, and it takes a special kind of asshole/bitch to keep on playing games when the other person wants to stop. That's why you have to cut those people off completely.

Anyway, back to the original topic, whether or not it's a game, there really is only one course of action: ignore it. Maybe it was a mistake, or maybe it was a test, but either way, what difference does it make? It's not worth walking away from her over such a minor difficulty. Just give it a few days, and call her later.

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first off what is welp? i noticed you said that word a couple of times in your post(beat_chemist) welp

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Originally posted by anuneventrade Games? Lets talk about games. How about the.... I'm not going to answer my phone when I have it on me all the time and I see you're calling instead of just saying hey lemme call you back game? (this is of course, the when I've been seeing you for months) Or the... Let me call you right back and I never do game? Or, this is my favorite, Let me blame everything on you game? (Well, I WOULDN'T have done/said that, but you were being such a bitch (when in fact, it was he that was in the wrong but feels the need to blame you)). Or, the "I'm the happiest I've ever been, but, its not working out, game? Or the, I'm going to keep pictures of my ex girlfriends "posing" for me when I know that it makes you cry but they're just pictures game? None of these "games" that we supposedly play are half as bad as yours. I, myself don't play any games, because they're pointless, and hardly worth my time. But don't make it out to seem as though females are the fucking enemy.

Look, dont blame me for writing the article. And the points you made arent a game, you just have to interpret it right. If he doesnt answer his phone when he is free, it usually means "leave me the fuck alone". Not in an offensive way, but just give some space.


Oh one more thing for you and everyone else. I DIDNT FUCKING WRITE THE ARTICLE, its just someones fucking opinion so take it under advisement, jesus christ

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Originally posted by politicsofdancin first off what is welp? i noticed you said that word a couple of times in your post(beat_chemist) welp

i noticed that too and i couldn't help but feel like i was reading a 'seventeen' magazine. He sure is down with the lingo.

oh- i think welp is supposed to be a poor subsitute for 'well'