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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 So, Cheney, looks like your chair is shaking, eh?

No, I'm part of the shadow government too

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Originally posted by occrider Well this certainly isn't going to help bush in 2004. I read that the polls have dropped on him so now people are evenly divided on support/disapproval of Bush's handling of the Iraq war. I did hear something he said on NPR that I have to give him credit for however, he did state that regardless of it being an election year, he's going to remain adament about seeing Iraq through to the end as if it weren't an election year.

- True, but as I also heard political commentaries say that, even though Bush said he wont look at it as an election year, he's going around and collecting money strongly, and using whatever little evidence or exaggerated proofs to rally americans and such. I mean, even if all the American soldiers were been wiped out like nothing, Bush HAS to say positive things and ladaladalada.. if you know what I mean. He has no other way around.

Im quite surprised though on how low key the democrat canditates have been, in fact, on many issues, such as the leak, war on Iraq, medicare, education, environment etc etc... Im sure that if this were republicans, they would be sparking anager like crazy hehehe...

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On a side note.. whats up with Powell?? its he hiding?

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Looks like another Vietnam...

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Originally posted by Galapidate Looks like another Vietnam...

maybe to someone from outter space...

The UN has its uses but lately, all they have been doing is nothing. all talk and no action is the UN slogan these days. when america wanted to go to war, (no, im mean bush) they had good reasons, saddam could have made massivly destructive weapons to give to terrorists....but as we know, arabs just love a good jihad every once and while, and saddam seemed to have things in control, but who cares about saddam and his government...

america should have never let that looting spree happen when baghdad fell, because many weapons and ammo was looted and many things that could have helped rebuilding...

lastly, those jihadist, islamic fundamentalist, and any other radicals and resistance fighters in irak PISS ME THE FUCK OFF. Sorry children but your daddy has died. the new one has come to take over. all the other little children want to move on and (rebuild), but these fucking radicals are just making things worse for they own people and fellow moslims...

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Ever since September 11, it appears that America's image in the eyes of has become increasingly negative.

September 11 was a huge tragedy for America, and for humanity. I don't want to take away from that fact at all. I merely want to discuss the important issues related to America's foreign policy, and paticularly, America's "War on Terror".

It is extremely important to look at the causes of the tragedy. Why did this happen? What were the factors that led to it? It appears that George W. Bush et al have neglected to learn from 9/11 in a number of ways:

It appears that America's long history of violence will continue, so long as they refuse to have a major rethink of foreign policy. The 20th century contains many instances of the US engaging in conflict and war - WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Chile, Iraq,Iran, Afghanistan - the list goes on.

Admittedly, America believed that they were 'doing the right thing' in these countries. But what were the REAL objectives? The US has only entered confilcts when they were to gain a benefit. The current conflict in Iraq is a fine example of this. America's decisive 'victory' in Iraq has turned into a drawn-out bloody conflict that does not look like ending any time soon. Could somebody please tell me where the logic and reason lies in bombing the shit out of an entire country to remove Saddam Hussein, and then awarding lucrative billion-dollar contracts to American companies (friends of Rumsfeld) to rebuild the country again. Is that the idea? Flatten the place, then start fresh?

America's motives for entering Iraq were said to be to remove Saddam Hussein's brutal regime, find his "Weapons of Mass Destruction" and bring safety, freedom and democracy to the people of Iraq. How clear it is that these goals have not been realised. No Weapons of Mass Destruction have been found after nearly a year of inspection. The UN weapons inspectors could have told them that. Freedom? The Iraqis are hardly free at this point. Safety? It could be argued that the situation was better under Saddam. It is clear that the Iraqis are fed up with the US occupying their country - almost daily bomb attacks reinforce this.


Europe, the UN and much of the free world realise that war is not the answer. Violence begets violence, as the saying goes. Why is it that George Bush continues an agressive military policy that not eliminate terroists, but instead breed thousands more.