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Originally posted by nic01445 it isn't the importance of the 10 commandments that makes this controversial. it is the fact that they are in a courthouse. Putting the 10 commandments in a courthouse is only the begining of pro-christian bias in the courthouse. the law SHOULD be without religion. If we allow one religion to implement it's believes into the judicial system, then members of other religions have predispositions when they enter that courthouse. What is considered "wrong" in one religion may not be considered "wrong" in another. This would defeat the whole idea of a fair trial.

Christianity isn't a religion,It's a relationship and belief in God. (Yes, I know.I'm a Christian.) Religion is Catholocism, and things like that. The 10 commandments are important. VERY important. They shouldn't have been taken out.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Christianity isn't a religion,It's a relationship and belief in God. (Yes, I know.I'm a Christian.) Religion is Catholocism, and things like that. The 10 commandments are important. VERY important. They shouldn't have been taken out.

what are you talking about?

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Originally posted by nic01445 what are you talking about?

You were refering to Christianity,like it's a religion. But,it's not.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 You were refering to Christianity,like it's a religion. But,it's not.

it...is...a...religion...

It's just someone fucking around I think.

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Originally posted by nic01445 it...is...a...religion...

It isn't. Christianity is a relationship with God,and a belief in God.

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Originally posted by nic01445 it isn't the importance of the 10 commandments that makes this controversial. it is the fact that they are in a courthouse. Putting the 10 commandments in a courthouse is only the begining of pro-christian bias in the courthouse. the law SHOULD be without religion. If we allow one religion to implement it's believes into the judicial system, then members of other religions have predispositions when they enter that courthouse. What is considered "wrong" in one religion may not be considered "wrong" in another. This would defeat the whole idea of a fair trial.

Alright,here's something to feed to the Debate.

Which church does the 10 Commandments promote??

Also..
If the 10 commandments have a confliction of religion where is it the governments responsibility to deconflict it?

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I am one big jumbled mess of religion (Father being Jewish, Mother being Roman Catholic), however, I don't believe that the Ten Commandments should have stayed in front of the courthouse.

As stated:

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The First Amendment guarantees that government will not actively endorse religion in general or favor one faith over another. The same amendment also guarantees an individual's right to worship as he pleases.

If we continue to leave the Ten Commandments in front of a courthouse, then are we not favoring a religion? Does that not make a follower of Buddha shy away from the courthouse?

It seems more sufficient, to perhaps have a monument of the Civil Rights, that to have the Ten Commandments. The Civil Rights pertain to each and every American. The Ten Commandments pertain only to a certain group.

Beliefs should be placed aside on this topic. How can we preach equality if we are already biased on Religion?

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Originally posted by anuneventrade I am one big jumbled mess of religion (Father being Jewish, Mother being Roman Catholic), however, I don't believe that the Ten Commandments should have stayed in front of the courthouse. As stated: If we continue to leave the Ten Commandments in front of a courthouse, then are we not favoring a religion? Does that not make a follower of Buddha shy away from the courthouse? It seems more sufficient, to perhaps have a monument of the Civil Rights, that to have the Ten Commandments. The Civil Rights pertain to each and every American. The Ten Commandments pertain only to a certain group. Beliefs should be placed aside on this topic. How can we preach equality if we are already biased on Religion?

Well said.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Christianity isn't a religion,It's a relationship and belief in God. (Yes, I know.I'm a Christian.) Religion is Catholocism, and things like that. The 10 commandments are important. VERY important. They shouldn't have been taken out.

Uhm....

Ya ok...MrS is pulling out his dictionary again.

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Main Entry: re·li·gion Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&n Function: noun Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religiosupernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY Date: 13th century 1 a : the state of a religious b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religiousattitudes, beliefs, and practices 3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Looks like what you said is Chrisitanity fits well within definition 2.

As for Catholicism...

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One entry found for Christianity. Main Entry: Chris·tian·i·ty Pronunciation: "kris-chE-'a-n&-tE, "krish-, -'cha-n&-, "kris-tE-'a- Function: noun Date: 14th century 1 : the religion derived from Jesus Christ , based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies 2 : conformity to the Christian religion 3 : CHRISTENDOM 2

See there miss/mister.....Catholics are Christians just as much as Baptists, Luterans, Anglicans, Pentacostals, etc. In fact with the exception of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, ALL Christian faiths are an off-shoot of catholicism. The whole term "protestant" comes from Martin Luthers protest of the way in which the Catholic church was organized.

So, basically said, your religion is Christianity. Whether or not you choose to think so is up to you. But there is no reliable argument otherwise.

MrS

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"In god we trust."

Funny, there hasen't been this many problems with society since they banned prayer in schools, it's not always about the religious aspect. The 10 commandments are a set of rules of all humanity, some are even laws. Can we say, because "Thou shalt not steal" is on the 10 commandments, that we should begin stealing? It's a peacful religion, if it's concidered a religion.. it used to be a standard way of life.

1. Thou shalt not have other gods before me.
- It doesen't mean God should be your only savior, it can also mean "Don't dwell on material things, you dont get to keep them in the afterlife."


2. You shall not make of yourself a carved image.
- Don't worship the tree's, they wont get you shit.

3. Thall shalt not take the LORDS name in VAIN.
- God damnit IS considered a swear word in any part of the world. Not because it's religious. Just like fuck, and shit, and the rest of them. It's telling you not to swear.

4. Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy.
- Time with your children can still be considered a sabbath day.

5. Honor your mother and father.
- Show respect for your parents. This is used in every day life, it's just a part of the christian religion.

6. You shall not murder.
- Gee. Imagine that as a 10 commandment.

7. Dont commity adultry
- Don't cheat on your wife. Do you think religion put this law there? You know not to cheat on your wife, wether christian or buddhist. You don't do it.

8. You shall not steal
- Steal a car, denounce your religion.

9. Dont bear false witness against your neighbour.
- Take a guess at what that means.

10. Dont covet your neighbours house, wife, car, or his money.
- Don't be a greedy little fuck, it wont get you anywhere. Work for a living, like your neighbour did.


The 10 commandments aren't just a religious tablet, they are our laws. Our MORAL laws, they keep us on our toes, they tell us what's right and whats wrong. Not because God said so.

Leave it in the courthouse, and follow it in your daily life.

Even satanists believe in God.

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