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punchline
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Virginia, United States

Before I got my turntables I tried to "get an ear" for beatmatching by using programs like traktor. It didn't really work for me. When I finally did get my tables, I found that for some reason it was easier to pick out differences in pitch and fix them.

Maybe it was because it is a lot easier to do by hand but I could beatmatch effectivly within a day or 2, and could do it quickly within a week. And to boot, later when I would use programs like traktor it was extremely easy to match tracks.

Like VIO, I have have spent a lot of my life working with music. Over 15 years of playing piano, including the past 4 years as an improv jazz pianist with a local group. I also play 4 other orchestral instruments, and can pick up new instruments rather quickly.

I think that it's a product of spending a lot of time listening to music critically, as a musician, that makes it easier to hear the little things in songs. A sort of ear training.

Old Post Nov-08-2003 03:46  Kiribati
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bent
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Perth

quote:
Originally posted by VIO
hhhmmmm... i ask because i was able to beat match the first time i tried. in fact the first time i every tried to mix i was able to spin/mix 4 trance tracks in a row beatmatched and phase matched pretty well. it completely blew away everyone who was there. i just never had to try, i just knew how. it rarely takes me more then 16 beats to lock up two tracks pretty well. i'm not trying to come off as arrogant or say i'm cool because of that. i'm just curious if anyone was able to beatmatch their first time.


damn thats awesome having a pre-trained ear lol

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Teraform
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta

don't know...dont have tables yet....but in the mean while i am using an assortment of computer equipment in order to make some mixes that i will be able to use when i get tables....doing pretty good...not bad at beat matching...dont know if that counts.....same kinda thing though gotta listen for the beats....give me at least some skills in order to get the beats to match...


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dartman
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: western mass

if you mean the first time that i ever beatmatched two songs together and had them sound alright, about three months. i still have off days, but other times i really rip shit up. the more i practice, the more consitant i am becoming. i had no prior music knowledge or training. i still remember my first real mix....we are alive into tell me why. pvd all the way man, or atleast back then it was

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

Hey SUNWmsf congratulations for Dec 30th!

The first decks I had didn't have pitch as I was more interested in scratching etc. plus I couldn't afford 1200s back in 86.
I did however get the chance to try a friends a few years later, and as a result he was pissed at me for being better at it than he was. I had already figured it out a year or so in my head before I actually tried it. It wasn't perfect but not bad.
Did have the luxury of having musical experience thouigh

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Flash Bastard
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Holland / Zoetermeer

hmm took me about a year or something 4 hours in a week

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dknylady
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: NJ baby!

it took me about 2 months of practicing an hour a day at least to train my ear enough to hear the pitch discrepencies. so that made things a lot easier. then it took some more months to really fine tune and be able to tell which track was faster/slower and how much i should adjust. damn i remember being sooo frustrated, it would take me forever.

it's been 10 months and most of the time i get it beatmatched perfectly now, i'm still not perfect of course. but that's why i still practice about an hour a day...

as for beatmatching 4 trax perfectly the first time you touched the tables, i'm sorry, i just can't believe that. i do know that before your ear is trained you cannot hear the trainwrecking at all (i've been through it) so it might have sounded perfect to you and the other people. now you should get some experieced djs to critique your mixing, that will really help to tell if you are REALLY beatmatching properly.


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DJ LIQUID
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: IL USA

how long before i could do it decent?...hhmmmmm about 2 years HAHAHAHA

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by dknylady
as for beatmatching 4 trax perfectly the first time you touched the tables, i'm sorry, i just can't believe that. i do know that before your ear is trained you cannot hear the trainwrecking at all (i've been through it) so it might have sounded perfect to you and the other people. now you should get some experieced djs to critique your mixing, that will really help to tell if you are REALLY beatmatching properly.


yeap, best advice I got on learning to mix came a few weeks before I got my tables. My buddy who has been djin for like 7 years told me to record everything and listen later. So before I got my decks I gave my computer the ability to record.

my mixes sound totally different later. A lot of my "perfect" mixes were horrible later. so it is always good to record and judge later.

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Salem
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Saskatchewan
hi

a hell of a long time.


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Dmatrox
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary

took me about 4-5 months to have it down solid. I played about an hour or 2 friday/saturday since i didnt have any time at the time.

I dont play any more because of lack of time.

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Arsalan
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by VIO
i started playing piano when i was 7. i've studied music for a long time and i read online about beatmatching so i'm sure that had something to do with it.


i read a lot on the net too before i got my numark 1520s and i was able to beatmatch the first time i tried, it wasnt a perfect beatmatch but i was impressed, by the end of 1st week i had phrasematching and everything down too.


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