quote:

Originally posted by flystyler Right anyone who drives will know one thing. It is very easy to speed. Im not talking about 60 miles an hour, or 50mph speed limits, im talkin about 30mph speed limits. If you drive a moderatly fast car, or even my bloody 1.2 corsa, if you take yr eye off the speedo for 2 seconds the speed can creep up and u r doing 35, now u can get nicked for doin 35 in a 30, and get 3 points on yr licence. Now the money is going to the local police and not the goverment the limits on when u get nicked have been brought down and more mobile cameras are in place. This makes the local police a large amount of money. And as my mate who is a copper will tell u, they do it for the money. They wont sit outside a school, or in an area where there are pedestrians at harm of being run over, no they will sit in areas where they know people maybe just going over the speed limit. It is all about making money now, and not about slowing down drivers. Also this has been further proved by the fact a lot of speed limits have come down, 60mph speed limits r now 40 in a lot of places, and 40s 30, and very poorly signed as well, to catch out drivers. I think its a discrace, i dont have a problem with cameras in traffic blgspots, but i do have a problem with them for money making purposes. The police needs speeders to make money, i think they have got their priorities totally wrong, spend more time dealing with educating the young, and making sure young girls dont get raped walking home from school or work. It makes me sick sometimes, but its not the coppers fault, they r only doing their job, its the people at the top. This world is only concerned with money now, especially this goverment, taxes on petrol, again to apparently stop drivers, but taxes on petrol is a huge percentage of the overall budget, same with smokers, the goverment needs speeders, drivers and smokers. Meh i could go on all day. It should be about the people, not the goverments pockets

Go flystyler!!!!!! (with u all the way)

quote:

Originally posted by flystyler This world is only concerned with money now, especially this goverment, taxes on petrol, again to apparently stop drivers, but taxes on petrol is a huge percentage of the overall budget, same with smokers, the goverment needs speeders, drivers and smokers.

my dad works for hm c+e, so i know that this is fair on first glance yes. but taxes here even out over there etc. our road tax is fuck all compared to most of europe who also have even stricted pollution limits + stuff. everybody accross europe and most of the first world gets taxed more on something or other, ours just immediately happen to be petrol + tobacco.

also, be glad you don't live in norway, a macdonalds for 3 people cost my mate a shade over 30 quid.

___________________

w: www.luketerry.com

quote:

Originally posted by flystyler Now the money is going to the local police and not the goverment the limits on when u get nicked have been brought down and more mobile cameras are in place. This makes the local police a large amount of money. And as my mate who is a copper will tell u, they do it for the money.

They are massively under funded as it is, you can hardly blame them for trying to make a bit of money now can you.

This thread seems to be the non drivers vs the drivers OF course i am dead against speed cameras

they should be used accordingly but not strategically (sp?) placed in daft places just to incur income, esp those twats sat in the white van just shooting throughtout the day.

In the papers the other day, there was one van that rakes in so much, the whole police force for that area, had so much surplus income from speed fines that they had to give the rest to the government as they didn't know whay to do with it!!

On my way to london on 19-Oct, i got flashed like twice, first time was around 11pm, on m25 ring road, there were like about 10 cameras, and coming off one of the junctions, i was trying to look for road signs as i didnt where i was going, and got flashed. Just noticed the speed markings on the road, and it was too late when i saw 2 flashes in my rear mirror. Still my fault, as if i didn't know where i was going, i shouldn't be driving that fast anyway. Fair argument, i should pay the fine. And then again coming into london, i got flashed again... and my argument, was looking at the road signs to see where i was going

___________________

"It aint just the tunes you play, its how you play them" - Ed
[www.thisthingcalleddance.com] - Pause @ Charles Street, Sheffield.

quote:

Originally posted by sykadelik This thread seems to be the non drivers vs the drivers OF course i am dead against speed cameras

Too true, hier hier

___________________


Art in the Park Courtesy of PISE & the Ravin' Beauties

It just bugs me coz i get to sheffield on the A61, and there is a road that in the morning, at 9am there is a mobile speed camera, two blokes sitting in the back holding these guns. Then when i leave uni at 4pm, they are on the other side of the road doing the same. Now these two ppl could be doing something other than sitting on their arse all day, baring in mind our taxes pay them. I know3 speed cameras near me that after just after a 60 mph zone, down to a 30. U imagine someone going down there at 60, start to slow down and then slam on his brakes coz of the cam, bloke behind him rams into him. ITs a domino effect!

1/11 people have no supposidely been flashed for speeding. This bloke said that he regards speeders as criminals, so we obviously have allot of criminals in this country.

The things the bloke used on the advert to stop ppl speeding is like showing this young lad run into the road and a car was doign 25mph and he died. Should we all slow to 20 mph? I dont get it. Why not try and do an awaeness scheme so that kids know how to cross roads properly, and mums shouldnt let kids run around next to busy main roads! Even the mum was saying that speed cams are ridiucals!

It is money making scheme, and the crime of this country is getting worse. I actually feel sorry for coppers ccoz they get the slack for all of this and it is their superiors who tell em what to do.

Why not put a ristricted speed limit on cars or something!!!

I only speed on the dual carriagement + motorway tbh so i must be a criminal, oh well.

if i get caught twice speeding i lose my liscence as iv only been driving 5 months!

you couldn't put a speed limiter on cars as it would be dangerous.

you wouldn't be able to accelrate away from danger from example, or you car could not react as fast as you could.

fortunately in the cases of motorways, police unofficially regard the limit as 80, and therefore you won't get anything against you if you go past a mobile laser gun.

also there is a threshold for camera flashes for you to get a fine and points.

it is 10% of the limit plus 2 mph.

so if you get flashed in a 30 zone for doing 34, you can contest that. The threshold is set by the UK police headquarters.

also, if you don't want to get any points or fines, don't sign the ticket when it comes thorught your door, but send it back to the address. You won't get any points or fine, as there is a loophole in the law. Basically, by signing it, you admit that it was you etc. However, there is no law saying you have to sign the ticket, therefore, the ticket is void as evidence.

___________________

The Midnight Collective MySpace

quote:

Originally posted by dj_mdma also, if you don't want to get any points or fines, don't sign the ticket when it comes thorught your door, but send it back to the address. You won't get any points or fine, as there is a loophole in the law. Basically, by signing it, you admit that it was you etc. However, there is no law saying you have to sign the ticket, therefore, the ticket is void as evidence.

i thought u still need to pay the fine, u just dont get no points? its been nearly 4 weeks lam, wicked but touch wood its not been delayed in the post!!

___________________

"It aint just the tunes you play, its how you play them" - Ed
[www.thisthingcalleddance.com] - Pause @ Charles Street, Sheffield.

quote:

Originally posted by dj_mdma there should be no limit on the motorways either, just like Germany

Actually there are limits on the motorways in Germany. It's just that the cops don't bother with going after you unless you're afterburning it down the autobahn big time.

___________________
"Wenn du dich zum Untergrund zählst, reicht es nicht, es nur zu sagen. Du musst auch viel graben, um es zu werden."

quote:

Originally posted by dj_mdma you couldn't put a speed limiter on cars as it would be dangerous. you wouldn't be able to accelrate away from danger from example, or you car could not react as fast as you could.

1. a speed limiter wouldnt decrease the acceleration and as for accelerating out of danger thats riduculous

2. the 10% + 2mph is a guideline only you can still be prosecuted for doing 34mph in a 30mph zone.

3. as for the loophole of not signing that is a load of crap you can still be done