Design, thanks thats a great explaination. A hell of a lot more usefull than cheggy's.

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Originally posted by danieldavid Design, thanks thats a great explaination. A hell of a lot more usefull than cheggy's.

Always here to help.

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I use a pair of Axiom M22ti monitors ($400US) and an Adire Rava sub ($400US). I must say that the accuracy of sound reproduction is amazing on these.





The axioms are all around great speakers for neutrality, detail, and soundstage. They do roll off the bass fairly high, so thats where the rava comes into play. very clean, controlled bass with it's 12" shiva woofer, all the way down to 25hz. The integration between the speakers and sub is almost flawless, giving the impression of full range towers.

I personally don't know how someone can monitor properly with something like Tannoy Reveals (which i use at school) just because the bass response isnt there. Especially for a music genre that is heavily dependant on bass, you need something that can give you accuracy. On the other hand, we also have a pair of old Tannoy System Series speakers (dunno which model) which can surprisingly give good bass. I guess it depends on the actual speaker, but most smaller ones arn't designed to reproduce the entire frequency range. With small drivers how could they?

The only 'con' for these speakers is that they arnt active. I personally see that as a pro, cause you can then upgrade amplifiers later, but I guess some people want actives for whatever reason/

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The axioms are all around great speakers for neutrality, detail, and soundstage.

But the Axioms are audiophile speakers, not studio monitors.

Haha, just bullshitin', I know that pisses you off, just playin'. I bet I had you going though.

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lol Etherium

some people stick with their view of things, others are more open minded.

What if you are open minded, and stick with that? hahaha.

Anyway, damn this thread, it's just burst my bubble about Behringer monitors.

Does anyone have experience with the Alesis Monitor 1 MKII's? I've used them as broadcast monitors at a radio station, but the matierial being played and the board makes it hard to know if the reproduction is accurate, and not to mention the wall of glass behind the board... Anyway, the active version of the Monitor 1 seems to be nice, any thoughts?

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Hmmm, well, you probably can't afford the Dynaudios or Genelecs or you wouldn't be looking at Behringer Truths, but what about a pair of Mackie HR624s. They are just as good as the 824s but with a little less bass response.

I have the Event TR8s. They are pretty flat, but the soundstage could be better.

With speakers, it seems that you get what you pay for. Another thing to consider is that it is hard to resell monitors. So, make a good decision the first time. No pressure, hehe.

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Etherium, no pressure huh? Haha this is a tough decision, before i started this thread it would've bought my Truth monitors and probably never looked back. But sometimes its better to know the truth (no pun intended). Anyway, yes i cannot buy Genelec or Dynaudio monitors, i just dont have $1000+ to drop on monitors. Maybe if i get something signed? Anyway, this is still a great thread, because I think there are a lot of people out there who think anything called a 'studio monitor' is worth buying. Obviously there is more to it than that.

So again, I have $400 to spend, I need a pair of ACTIVE monitors, or the amp and monitors have to cost less than $400-$500. And they will be used only for production and maybe some minor mastering. What are the options?

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Other than that the Event TR8s are good for the price, they are a little over your range at 500.00.

You might just want to go with the Alesis M1s. To be honest, I would try to save up a little more i.e. donate sperm or become a manwhore or sell something on Ebay. If so, you could get a pair of Mackies.

Good luck.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono I guess some people want actives for whatever reason/

I saw this on the mackie website regarding external amps. Of course this is from their website and they most likely will have a biased opinion

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http://mackie.com/products/mackietechnology/Active_vs_Passive.html because power amps vary widely in output ratings, damping factors and sound characteristics, they introduce an unwanted variable in the monitoring process. The HR824's internal amplifiers are low negative feedback, audiophile-quality designs which are specially tailored to the optimum power requirements of the transducers.

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Originally posted by SOLTRI I saw this on the mackie website regarding external amps. Of course this is from their website and they most likely will have a biased opinion

Yeah, active speakers are always being backed up by the argument that the amps are specifically designed to work with the speaker to give you the best output.

I dont believe it at all. If a pair of active monitors costs 1000, how much is going into the speaker itself, and how much is going into the amp? Chances are they skimp on the amp, because it has less impact on the sound compared to the actual speaker components. They are also usually pretty low power output, not that you need alot for monitoring, but its usefull, especially when you're testing out your mixes at a nice loud level, and want alittle headroom to prevent any signs of distortion or clipping. Also the watts are sometimes inflated in their specs. I know alot of companies do this, with there tricky ways of rating power (eg if an amp is rated at 60watts, it could be 60 into one channel with only one mono channel,, when you use regular stereo it goes down to 40 or something per channel).

I would prefer to have a choice of what seperate amp to use, to assure that I'm getting quality.

Something like a nice Creek A50i. (i personally dont use anything fancy as an amp right now, but thats the beauty of having passive speakers. can always upgrade.)

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Originally posted by danieldavid Does anyone have experience with the Alesis Monitor 1 MKII's? I've used them as broadcast monitors at a radio station, but the matierial being played and the board makes it hard to know if the reproduction is accurate, and not to mention the wall of glass behind the board... Anyway, the active version of the Monitor 1 seems to be nice, any thoughts?

Sorry to dig this up, but its that or start a new thread, anyway...

I'm also thinking about getting the Alesis Monitor 1 MKII's, as thats in my price range, its priced at GB£200/US$350. My Question is what do you think about it, will it do the job? here is the spec for it if you didn't know and my questions:

Frequency Response: 45 Hz - 20 kHz +/- 3dB

will that be fine?, will it need a seperate subwoofer for it if it only goes to 45Hz?

Power Handling: 120 watts program, 200 watts peak at 4 ohms

will my 30 Watt per channel at 8 ohms amp do the job, will it just mean it want be able to go to max volume and/or will the quality be reduced? this cost me about GB£120/US$200 if that helps.

Thanks, and a happy new year!