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Monkey Mouse
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You could buy any new VA for the same price as a used Jupiter 6 or 8 and not have to worry about it not working (gotta love warranties).

Or you could go out and buy a new Analog synth like a small modular or a Macbeth or something, theya run about $1,500 and up.

A good softsynth is a no-brainer too, but hardware gets the juices flowing.

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DeZmA
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Is it so hard to answer his question?

Jupiter 6 will blow any VA and softsynth away in terms of warmth. That is a fact. Just compare a virus pad with a jupiter pad and hear the difference. (and yes I do also like the virus pads) . If this is what you want then do a search and read all reviews on the net and find out it's a kickass synth.
The only pain with these old machines is that they have limited midi implementation..


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Etherium
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quote:
Is it so hard to answer his question?


Umm...

quote:
The Jupiter series isn't overrated. Without it some of the warmest sounds you've ever heard in cinema and on hit records would not have been made.

But...there is no need for the Jupiter with a synth like Atmosphere.


Let me revise that, there is little need for a Jupiter.

quote:
By that do you mean that you have a compulsion to buy 20 year old synths that, like you said, create enough heat to melt a small glacier and require calibration and tuning every so many years? Are you a collector of vintage synths?

You are no doubt looking for warm pads, big basses and maybe a few huge leads.

For the warm pads, look no further than Atmosphere. For basses, no further than Trilogy.

Yes, I know, Atmosphere sampled the Jupiter "so it isn't as good". Well, all I can say is Persing used state of the art Apoggee converters, 32 bit, 192k, and state of the art knowledge. Some of the best samples ever captured and 96 percent as good as the real thing.

Look, I understand why you want a Jupiter, it's a legendary synth, but software is coming out these days based on samples taken from that specific synth that essentially precludes the need for the real thing.


Sorry, but I think this is answering the question. I'm not saying softsynths can emulate a Jupiter, but I am saying that pristinely recorded samples can come very, very close.


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DeZmA
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Originally posted by Etherium
Umm...


His question clearly says he wanted to add an analog synth to his setup.

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Let me revise that, there is little need for a Jupiter.



Sorry, but I think this is answering the question. I'm not saying softsynths can emulate a Jupiter, but I am saying that pristinely recorded samples can come very, very close.



That is your opinion, not mine , older analog synths have those imperfections (like the osc that is not always stable) that make them fatter than any VA + DIGITAL filters will never be as warm as analog ones. The flagship waldorf Q added an analog filtermodule for adding warmth. Samples can emulate some sounds but certainly not all (like modulating pwm's which still produce the fattest pads)
And then again there is the fun of the HANDS ON interface with dedicated sliders etc.. better than clicking a mouse imho + much easier than having 187 softsynths running when going live
but who am I?


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CynepMeH
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Originally posted by TraNcerke
His question clearly says he wanted to add an analog synth to his setup.




That is your opinion, not mine , older analog synths have those imperfections (like the osc that is not always stable) that make them fatter than any VA + DIGITAL filters will never be as warm as analog ones. The flagship waldorf Q added an analog filtermodule for adding warmth. Samples can emulate some sounds but certainly not all (like modulating pwm's which still produce the fattest pads)
And then again there is the fun of the HANDS ON interface with dedicated sliders etc.. better than clicking a mouse imho + much easier than having 187 softsynths running when going live
but who am I?



Hmm... I do appreciate all the feedback. So far, I got an Atmosphere for mere $229 - peanuts, comparing to what Jupiter costs. I haven't tried it yet, but my fingers are itching. The only concern I have is that it's a memory hog.

I will have to wait for a Jupiter to be available to try before I commit 1,500 of my cash. On the other hand, alesis andromeda may just fit the bill nicely.


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xfer
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I have used both the jupiter 6 and 8. Jupiter 8 doesn't come stock with midi, you need a kit for it. The Jupiter 6 does , but it has less polyphony. They both kickass, Atmosphere is a wise choice for the price but I would love a jupiter. I would get a MKS80 Super Jupiter its a sound module version.

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