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dj_ilan_yosef
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I will bring a big ass Palastine flag just to piss him off!!


I flag of hate drenched with innocent blood... nice!

It's also a shame you already missed it... I would have loved to see you considering I was on Security. A measly 10 of you showed this time... need a moral boost to get you hate-mongers back on the loud speaking yelling false slogans against anyone who isn't in favour of Arafat and his henchmen. Get a life! (And please don’t mistake that as an invitation to kill for one!)

It’s a shame that so many of you go out of your way to make life hell for others, but you don’t even look within yourselves to heal those wounds. The world is not against you; you’re fighting yourselves into your own graves!

“there will only be peace when they start loving their children more than they love killing ours” -
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Can I ask you a legitemate question?

Are you stupid?


Since you, the almighty Cyrus-king has deemed it legitimate, I press youto answer your own question... Are you stupid?


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No. But the tool who wants to take a Palestinian flag to the Woolsey speech can't even spell Palestine correctly. I'm guessing his limited understanding of the situation is gleaned from leftover copies of the Socialist Worker.


Take it easy there American!!


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quote:
Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef

It's also a shame you already missed it... I would have loved to see you considering I was on Security. A measly 10 of you showed this time... need a moral boost to get you hate-mongers back on the loud speaking yelling false slogans against anyone who isn't in favour of Arafat and his henchmen. Get a life! (And please don’t mistake that as an invitation to kill for one!)


ooh ya Toy Cops like u really scare me these day!!!
ur lucky I wasnt there fool.

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It’s a shame that so many of you go out of your way to make life hell for others, but you don’t even look within yourselves to heal those wounds. The world is not against you; you’re fighting yourselves into your own graves!


make life hell for others??how?it is called freedom of speach and I can say what I want when want and u cant stop me,even if u are a toy cup!!
quote:
“there will only be peace when they start loving their children more than they love killing ours” -
Golda Meir on the PLO


there will be more peace when u stop killing innocent people.and if Sharon goes away!!


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Cyrus King
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Dj Ilan Yosef makes me laugh...
Are you Melech again? What happened to arafuct?

Anyway, if you were to touch a persian at York, you would have expereienced your head detached from your body... there are a few crazy guys there man. Dont fuck with them beucase you are a "security guard"



Also, Im cirticizing Lorna for her disgusting support of Pro-racist "lecturers" like Daniel Pipes. She allowed "IDF" day for fucks sake to take palce...

Im sure you zionist pussies at York would weep tears if the arabs brought in a HAMAS spokesman, but they understand that they are murderers and dont support the,.. but you guys have issues with people who dont agree with the oppression of the palestinian people... you think they are all terrorists.

Oh well, let the idiots Zio's at york weep.. they only make thenmselves look like losers...

and I have basically heard this from every person ive met at york that isnt sympathetic to ISrael, and that is about hmmmmm.... alot!


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Dj Ilan Yosef are you Melech Mike?


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quote:
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Dj Ilan Yosef are you Melech Mike?


if he is,we should all go say hi to him at York


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Post a report (if anyone can) of what James W. said at the lecture. I would be interested in his point of view.

America's system needs reforming. It's not a CIA agent who runs the country. Ponder on that.

By the by, is this for a Political/Social Science specific or just a guests-free-for-all lecture?

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James Woolsey was invited by the Young Zionist Partnership at York University to give a lecture on "Israel and the War on Terror" along with a former FBI officer as well. It was open to everyone and tickets cost $5. There was a small but loud protest of about 20 individuals0 right outside the doors to the Burton Auditorium where the lecture was held. I do not have a report of the lecture.

I'm hoping that since you are interested in Woolsey's point of view, then you would also be interested in Sheikh Yassin's point of view. He is the spiritual leader of Hamas. Him and Woosley are both terrorists and Yassin to you is the same as Woosley is to me. That is why the protest was organized.


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dj_ilan_yosef
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Dj Ilan Yosef makes me laugh...
Are you Melech again? What happened to arafuct?

Ohh Mr. Kaveh, when will you learn to shut your mouth.

quote:

Anyway, if you were to touch a persian at York, you would have expereienced your head detached from your body... there are a few crazy guys there man. Dont fuck with them beucase you are a "security guard"

Detached from my head...Considering the consequences of anything happening to me; I'm not too worried! Funny thing is i see and speak to many of them everyday - they fully know I'm israeli - yet we get along even when I proclaim to them that Arafat is a terrorist!

Mr. Kaveh, it has also come to my attention that we share a few friends who have yet to learn of your position on they're country and religion.

quote:

Also, Im cirticizing Lorna for her disgusting support of Pro-racist "lecturers" like Daniel Pipes. She allowed "IDF" day for fucks sake to take palce...

Im sure you zionist pussies at York would weep tears if the arabs brought in a HAMAS spokesman, but they understand that they are murderers and dont support the,.. but you guys have issues with people who dont agree with the oppression of the palestinian people... you think they are all terrorists.


First and foremost, I have reitterated many times over, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE WHO WISH FOR PEACE IN CO-EXISTANCE WITH ISRAEL. I do however have problems with Arabs(and anyone else for that matter) such as yourself that do not believe the state of Israel to have the right to exist, or if you continue to sympathize with Arafat who the EU has even finally been straying away from! HE is a TERRORIST, 10x worst than Hamas!

I commend Lorna for her tramendous work at York and throughout this city! A very powerful woman indeed - it's no wonder you fear her Cyrus.

Funny thing is you wouldn't even be allowed to bring in hamas.... not even their spokesperson!!! They have been labeled TERRORISTS!!! Plain and simple. As a 3-4th year university student, I’d expect you to understand simple facts like that!

CIA AND FBI WERE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH ISRAEL!
James Woolsley himself said he supports the security fence (which he maintains is 90-95% fence, and the remainder being a wall ONLY due to sniping incidents in that area). WE MUST FIGHT ISLAMISTS (as he called them) TO THEIR DEATHS!

quote:

Oh well, let the idiots Zio's at york weep.. they only make thenmselves look like losers...
You keep using the term zionist in a negitive conotation and i will start using phrases such as idiot arabs, idiot muslim, and idiot palestinians! Learn what zionism is instead of splerting baseless shit out of your face!

quote:

and I have basically heard this from every person ive met at york that isnt sympathetic to ISrael, and that is about hmmmmm.... alot!
Funny thing is all those who are on the side of Israel and the USA think your side looks stupid just the same... waving slogans like the CIA sells crack for terrorism! HAHahaha ! or, free free palestine.... from who, you terror sympathizers? handing out leaflets with outdated information being the least of the mistakes on it....lies propaganda and hate being the rest of its attributes!

If your goal in life is to insult Jews as the reason for all your problems, then you're doing a great job at finding a scapegoat. If your goal in life is to help the Arabs and Muslims throughout the world achieve better standerds of living, education, and equality, then i strongly suggest you end your intifada with the Jews, and start it with that 5% of Islamists and Nationalists who fuck shit up for everyone! Realize your true enemy; only then will you win!


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
Ohh Mr. Kaveh, when will you learn to shut your mouth.


Detached from my head...Considering the consequences of anything happening to me; I'm not too worried! Funny thing is i see and speak to many of them everyday - they fully know I'm israeli - yet we get along even when I proclaim to them that Arafat is a terrorist!

Mr. Kaveh, it has also come to my attention that we share a few friends who have yet to learn of your position on they're country and religion.



First and foremost, I have reitterated many times over, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE WHO WISH FOR PEACE IN CO-EXISTANCE WITH ISRAEL. I do however have problems with Arabs(and anyone else for that matter) such as yourself that do not believe the state of Israel to have the right to exist, or if you continue to sympathize with Arafat who the EU has even finally been straying away from! HE is a TERRORIST, 10x worst than Hamas!

I commend Lorna for her tramendous work at York and throughout this city! A very powerful woman indeed - it's no wonder you fear her Cyrus.

Funny thing is you wouldn't even be allowed to bring in hamas.... not even their spokesperson!!! They have been labeled TERRORISTS!!! Plain and simple. As a 3-4th year university student, I’d expect you to understand simple facts like that!

CIA AND FBI WERE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH ISRAEL!
James Woolsley himself said he supports the security fence (which he maintains is 90-95% fence, and the remainder being a wall ONLY due to sniping incidents in that area). WE MUST FIGHT ISLAMISTS (as he called them) TO THEIR DEATHS!

You keep using the term zionist in a negitive conotation and i will start using phrases such as idiot arabs, idiot muslim, and idiot palestinians! Learn what zionism is instead of splerting baseless shit out of your face!

Funny thing is all those who are on the side of Israel and the USA think your side looks stupid just the same... waving slogans like the CIA sells crack for terrorism! HAHahaha ! or, free free palestine.... from who, you terror sympathizers? handing out leaflets with outdated information being the least of the mistakes on it....lies propaganda and hate being the rest of its attributes!

If your goal in life is to insult Jews as the reason for all your problems, then you're doing a great job at finding a scapegoat. If your goal in life is to help the Arabs and Muslims throughout the world achieve better standerds of living, education, and equality, then i strongly suggest you end your intifada with the Jews, and start it with that 5% of Islamists and Nationalists who fuck shit up for everyone! Realize your true enemy; only then will you win!


I dont think you uinderstand me yet, after all these times Ilan.

I hate seeing violence, whether it is israeli agression or Paelstinian terror. Get that through your head.. fighting fire with fire wont quench the problem.

And as for those few friends that do not know my position on their country....well they havent spoken to me in long while. Please PM me with the names of these friends, i would LOOOOOOOOOOVE to know who these 'frineds' are that you are talking about.

I think you fail to see my view on this conflict, you see me as a Jew hater,... im not surprised, thats what happens when people criticize Israels military actions.

One of my best friends is Jewish, in fact i have many Jewish friends, that still doesnt change my mind on what i think is wrong with Israel.

Have fun in Miami


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Here is some information on the Woolsey speech. I especially like the part where he talks about how anti-Semitism threatens the rule of law, and leads to the world's most oppressive societies. Hello, Yasser...you listening?

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Ex-CIA director says Europe's elite drawing '1st breath of totalitarianism'
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Posted: November 28, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Former CIA director James Woolsey is taking on Europe's media and cultural elite, saying they've drawn ''the first breath of totalitarianism'' due to their growing resentment of Jews.

The agency's director under the Clinton administration, Woolsey made the comments during a speech to a predominantly Jewish audience at York University in Toronto.

According to the National Post, Woolsey said Jews are history's great champions of the rule of law, so much so that they have come to embody it. He said anti-Semitism threatens the rule of law and intolerance of Jews is a first step toward dictatorial rule - a hallmark of the world's most oppressive societies.

"Once anti-Semitism raises its head, the rest of us who don't want to live with a foot on the back of our necks are likely to be the next targets," Woolsey said.

"So once you begin to dabble with the idea that you want to bully people, that you want to order them around, that you want them to do what you say, you very frequently start to drift into anti-Semitism," he said. "I think that is what is happening in some of the cultural elites in Europe."

He said Jews have always promoted the primacy of the law over the leader, as evidenced by their dietary restrictions and dress.

''People hate Jews to very much the degree that they have come to realize that this notion of the rule of law is something that came to the world something between three and four millennia ago in the Sinai desert. The idea that the government is above the ruler, and that rulers, whether it's King David or anyone else, are to be held to account by the people, by great prophets, by whomever - that notion essentially came out of the Sinai desert,'' Woolsey said.

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