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nic01445
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: HERE AND NOW

quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Bush is a busy man. He has a million places he has to be.. I think we should all just be happy that he went to go see the troops.^_^


yeah who cares about iraqi people. it's all about us us us.

Old Post Nov-29-2003 01:44  Antigua
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WhoaNellie1487
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by nic01445
yeah who cares about iraqi people. it's all about us us us.


That's not true, Why do you think we went into this war in the first place? To liberate the Iraqi's. It's not all about us us us.


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Old Post Nov-29-2003 01:48  United States
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nic01445
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quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
I think we should all just be happy that he went to go see the troops.^_^


this is what i'm talking about. we put our lives above theirs. it isn't right.

Old Post Nov-29-2003 01:54  Antigua
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NeoPhono
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Sounds like the Iraqis would be pissed no matter what. If he doesn't come at all, he's "neglecting" the region. When he does come, he doesn't stay long enough. I realize they're wanting to show their "hospitality," but when Iraqi "hospitality" equals missles in donkey carts and car bombs, I think it's pretty smart to decline some grand showing of Iraqi "hospitality." They should realize that Bush is the marked man of all men in Iraq right now, and be happy he even had the balls to go there at all.

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WhoaNellie1487
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by nic01445
this is what i'm talking about. we put our lives above theirs. it isn't right.

excuse me? These are our troops we are talking about! We should value their lives the most!


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MrSquirrel
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Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Most of the Muslims who were interviewed by reporters in Iraq took it as an insult that he didn't stay longer to receive their hospitality (the ones who supported him). Hospitality is very important in their culture.

Well I have not read up more on the topic but as far as I could tell from the reports on the radio this morning on the way to work no one outside of the military "base" at Baghdad Airport knew that he was there (though it is hard to miss a 747-300 with a shiny underbelly and the 2 tone color scheme of tail number 27000 flying by) until after he had left Iraqi airspace.

I can also understand why no president would walk through the streets of a city in such a volatile place. Think back 40 years to the reason why the presidential car is a tank masquerading as a Cadillac, that happened to a generally well liked and admired president in the streets of an American city.

While I would not mind a sudden loss of office for the current chief executive, I want it done in a fashion that guarantees me that Cheney is not the person to step in automatically. He is infinitely more dangerous than the chimp.

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King_Mack
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Registered: Oct 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
excuse me? These are our troops we are talking about! We should value their lives the most!


then you're calling Bush stupid to send those precious troops in to battle in a country where there is no business to be in...no?
A little hypocritical if you ask me, he's sending in MORE troops into a really rough area where soldiers are dying when the war was 'officially' over, and you think its kind of him to take less than a day to go visit these heroic people that has literally slaved for months and months when they were said it would take much less? It doesnt take much effort to jump into a luxury jet..escorted by heavy security. Sure, he misses thanksgiving, big whoop..he can have it the next day. Heck, he can name a "thanksgiving pt 2" cuz he has the power to. Instead of pulling a publicity stunt like that, how bout he gets some sort of plan to pull these ppl back to their homes..where THEY can spend time with their family to make up for the other 8 holidays they missed


Sorry, I just get a little irritated when people praise Bush as if he's some sort of saviour.


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Psionic
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What's also hypocritical are these families who hate Bush because their children are dying in the war. It's not Bush's fault that their children decided to enlist in the army. They knew what could happen. I hate those types of people.

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DR86
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Hillary was in Afghanistan and Baghdad...thought i'd throw that in this thread.


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WhoaNellie1487
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quote:
Originally posted by King_Mack
then you're calling Bush stupid to send those precious troops in to battle in a country where there is no business to be in...no?
A little hypocritical if you ask me, he's sending in MORE troops into a really rough area where soldiers are dying when the war was 'officially' over, and you think its kind of him to take less than a day to go visit these heroic people that has literally slaved for months and months when they were said it would take much less? It doesnt take much effort to jump into a luxury jet..escorted by heavy security. Sure, he misses thanksgiving, big whoop..he can have it the next day. Heck, he can name a "thanksgiving pt 2" cuz he has the power to. Instead of pulling a publicity stunt like that, how bout he gets some sort of plan to pull these ppl back to their homes..where THEY can spend time with their family to make up for the other 8 holidays they missed


Sorry, I just get a little irritated when people praise Bush as if he's some sort of saviour.


No,I'm not calling Bush stupid.Bush is a brilliant man. Military men and women, are meant for this job obviously. We should care about them,in battle or not. They protect our nation everyday. (My father is a retired Lt.Col I have nothing but the most respect for military personel.) My mother also served for a while.

No one else would stand up to terrorism... So America did something about it.

and yes,It takes a lot of effort to get on a plane,have a 30 hour trip,on thanksgiving just to see your troops.. Especially when you are the president. He has a million other things he could be doing, and he could have stayed with his family on thanksgiving..but he didn't. He went over to Iraq to be with the troops.That takes guts. Not a publicity stunt. He cares about our troops.
The only person(s) pulling publicity stunts are the Clintons,No doubt of that.

Bush isn't the saviour, But he's a great man.


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trancaholic
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quote:
Originally posted by King_Mack
then you're calling Bush stupid to send those precious troops in to battle in a country where there is no business to be in...no?
A little hypocritical if you ask me, he's sending in MORE troops into a really rough area where soldiers are dying when the war was 'officially' over, and you think its kind of him to take less than a day to go visit these heroic people that has literally slaved for months and months when they were said it would take much less? It doesnt take much effort to jump into a luxury jet..escorted by heavy security. Sure, he misses thanksgiving, big whoop..he can have it the next day. Heck, he can name a "thanksgiving pt 2" cuz he has the power to. Instead of pulling a publicity stunt like that, how bout he gets some sort of plan to pull these ppl back to their homes..where THEY can spend time with their family to make up for the other 8 holidays they missed


Sorry, I just get a little irritated when people praise Bush as if he's some sort of saviour.


I agree with you. If the whole enchilada was not meant to be a publicity stunt, I wonder why they allowed reporters to be there.
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WhoaNellie1487
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quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
I agree with you. If the whole enchilada was not meant to be a publicity stunt, I wonder why they allowed reporters to be there.
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If you are speaking about me. You are spelling it incorrectly. It's Nellie, Not a y.


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