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whiskers
old skool



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

shut the fuck up.


i've never heard of the ATB remix, and i've done some research on this track. i think it's a simple mislabeling

and to just add some more pointless advice, stay away from all the tracks that are either "trance", "techno" or "dance" mixes, shorter than 5 minutes, or both. at least that's what i do to avoid crappy-quality, mislabeled, cut-off rips


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Old Post Nov-29-2003 22:47  Ukraine
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mndeg
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: IL, United States

why are you using kazaa for mp3s?
LOL


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Snooper
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo
Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Err... mainly because someone actually DID post something that didn't have anything to do with the thread?


Well, did your posts have anything to do with the thread if i may ask? The point is, you always have to open your big mouth and flame people. If he wanted to state that he liked the Antillas remix, then what's the problem? Grow up...


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davinox
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Registered: Dec 2001
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Plummet - Dammaged (Rave Mix)

what's this? ch00n.


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DJ Sunburn
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Macon, Ga, USA

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
why are you using kazaa for mp3s?


that's what i'm saying


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Digital Aura
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sarnia, Ontario Christian Trance Producer
this took a weird turn!

First off... I have NEVER used Kazaa (too much spyware and shite)
and never stated that I did!
Whiskers said:
quote:
i've never heard of the ATB remix

My freind you didn't do too much lookin'

http://www.discogs.com/release/108537

It's not called ATB Remix but what else would you call it...it's not the original!


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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada
Re: this took a weird turn!

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
First off... I have NEVER used Kazaa (too much spyware and shite)
and never stated that I did!
Whiskers said:

My freind you didn't do too much lookin'

http://www.discogs.com/release/108537

It's not called ATB Remix but what else would you call it...it's not the original!



Dude, ATB didn't remix Damaged.

Just because ATB mixed that CD doesn't mean it's automatically his remix. It wasn't "called ATB Remix" for a reason.

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Digital Aura
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sarnia, Ontario Christian Trance Producer
Exclamation draw your own conclusions...

well...according to discogs, Trance Nation America 2 was remixed by ATB and George Acosta. ATB mixed disc 1 and Acosta mixed disc 2.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productin...6&frm=sh_google

A review on amazon.com says "...it seems to me that ATB takes forever to make a transition to the next song making some of the segments in between very boring with repetitive beats. George Acosta's mix on disc 2, on the other hand, is perfect."

Same type of review here...
http://newage-music.mainseek.com/18...nce_Nation.html

Now, that being said, I may be using terms improperly..he mixed it, or remixed it, or reworked it in a set ... whatever... its a shorter version than the original.
I also value the input of trancers more senior than myself -- such as starglider...and if I'm wrong...
I graciously submit to you - no offense! I know what you're sayin' and I have to admit...it doesn't stack up.

I'd like to know what the hell this track is...


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arctic
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Australia

From what I understand, the club mix is just the original (The antillas remix was the one in the video shown in tv down here).

I've never heard of an ATB mix , so i'm afraid i'm of no use there.

The only remix really worth listening to is the neo & farina anyhow.


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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada
Re: draw your own conclusions...

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
well...according to discogs, Trance Nation America 2 was remixed by ATB and George Acosta. ATB mixed disc 1 and Acosta mixed disc 2.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productin...6&frm=sh_google

A review on amazon.com says "...it seems to me that ATB takes forever to make a transition to the next song making some of the segments in between very boring with repetitive beats. George Acosta's mix on disc 2, on the other hand, is perfect."

Same type of review here...
http://newage-music.mainseek.com/18...nce_Nation.html

Now, that being said, I may be using terms improperly..he mixed it, or remixed it, or reworked it in a set ... whatever... its a shorter version than the original.
I also value the input of trancers more senior than myself -- such as starglider...and if I'm wrong...
I graciously submit to you - no offense! I know what you're sayin' and I have to admit...it doesn't stack up.

I'd like to know what the hell this track is...


Whoa whoa... I think you're getting your terminology mixed up a bit (a lot ).

Let's get some things straight.

Saying "ATB mixed disc 1" means that he compiled and spun the records (in theory, but let's not get into that) into a seamless mix. Mixing a CD is not at all the same thing as remixing a song, even though the root word seems to be the same. So he had absolutely nothing to do -- production-wise -- with the tracks on disc 1 (except for those explicitly marked as such), nor did George Acosta on the disc 2 tracks.

Now then, the track is a "shorter version" of the original because it's been mixed, ie, there's no intro or outro. I hope that clears some things up...

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whiskers
old skool



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

1. discogs don't always have their info correct

2. most amazon trance cds reviews are completely useless. the second link you give me calls this cd "Trance Nation '96 CD 1" yeah. 96???

3. i have trance nation america II and AFAIK, ATB never remixed damaged. just like starglider said, mixing and remixing are completely different things and simply making the track shorter or changing the tempo to fit it into a dj set does not make it a remix.


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mto
Hip-Hop



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: FL, USA

I don't like the remixes. I love the original breakbeat version

Dj X - Damaged (Original)
or Plummet - Damager (Original)

Plummet = Dj X (Breakbeat DJ from Orlando, FL) and the female vocalist that sang the lyrics.


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