Originally posted by State of Matter
Right before the main part he plays the bass supersaw pad, which sounds really really thick, that's what i've added to make the difference.
It's nothing against you, the patch from atmosphere was probably meant for softer pads rather than a huge epic lead sound. It sounds like maybe a 2 voice (1 voice x 2 oscilators) saw pad vs the 24 voice (12 voices x 2 oscilators) pad that I used. But still, its a nice sound, don't get me wrong. Didn't mean to offend you
To the original poster: I don't give out my presets because i put a lot of time into them, and i use a lot of fx and stuff that goes beyond just the patch to get the sound. If everybody gave out their patches, nobody would have unique sounds anymore. I will tell you how to make it yourself though and you'll get a lot more satisfaction, and some synth programming knowledge. Give me a little bit and ill write the tutorial.
I'd have to be pretty sensitive to take offense to criticism on an audio clip that took me 2 minutes to make =)
And yeah, you're right about the bass pad being in there; makes a lot of difference.
Dec-03-2003 22:50
J.L.
Never gonna give you up.
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Originally posted by dj-sean
I'd have to be pretty sensitive to take offense to criticism on an audio clip that took me 2 minutes to make =)
And yeah, you're right about the bass pad being in there; makes a lot of difference.
yes, but you still had to render it, and upload it to the internet.. therefore taking you longer than 2 minutes
Dec-03-2003 23:59
Sean Walsh
JAGERMAESTRO
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Downtown Vancouver
bah, 3.5 minutes total, max =P
Since the last clip really didn't do Atmosphere justice, I decided to take 20 minutes to make this instead:
Just to add to all of this, it has long been an industry, and by industry I mean the entire music industry, secret to use a low-frequency bass pad from the Roland Juno-106 to give a pad that extra heft. That not saying you have to get a 106 at all, but it really is used by more than a few producers to make that bottom end huge. Just FYI and by no means is this the only way to give a pad hugeness.
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Dec-04-2003 01:07
State of Matter
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^ Bass pads are the key to huge pads, as he said. Its just a long sustained bass note that follows the same progression as your bassline so its not really audible when you've got the bassline over top of it, but it makes a huge difference in how the main pad is supported.
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SOM, do you typically use a bass pad when you have your bassline going, or just in a breakdown and intro and outro? I've been wondering about this.
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Dec-04-2003 01:35
State of Matter
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I use a bass pad during breakdowns always, and sometimes during the main theme depending on the massiveness of the track. Sometimes a bass pad can make a gentle song sound too huge during the main section.
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5) State of Matter - Saving Icarus (Original Mix)
I'm confused as too what you mean by a basspad. Do you mean when your playing a chord , you add another note to the pad that plays at the same octave as your bassline?
Dec-04-2003 01:48
J.L.
Never gonna give you up.
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
he means by basically having a low note of bass frequencies...
one thing you have to be extremely careful with those is that they don't interfere with the same frequencies as the bassline...
Dec-04-2003 02:36
Sean Walsh
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Downtown Vancouver
Etherium, basspads can definitely be used in the main part of the track, just have to be careful that it doesn't clash too much with the actual bassline. I generally like to filter the main part of my bassline at around 200-300hz, and have a sub-bass in the 60-80hz range going with that. That would leave ample space for any basspad to occupy. Usually it just gets drowned out though so I don't bother, unless it's a phat sounding one like armin has where if you listen carefully enough, you can actually hear that he has it going along with his bassline too.
