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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
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The purpose of a civil marriage is to provide beneficial financial situation to the young couples in hope they'll have children, as well as to provide some security for those children. Therefore gay marriages are an oxymoron, since gays don't have children. I personaly don't have anything against gays screwing one another if they find it pleasurable, or living together for that matter, but they shouldn't recieve subsidies intended for people with children.


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Old Post Dec-15-2003 18:45  Croatia
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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
The purpose of a civil marriage is to provide beneficial financial situation to the young couples in hope they'll have children, as well as to provide some security for those children. Therefore gay marriages are an oxymoron, since gays don't have children. I personaly don't have anything against gays screwing one another if they find it pleasurable, or living together for that matter, but they shouldn't recieve subsidies intended for people with children.


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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
The purpose of a civil marriage is to provide beneficial financial situation to the young couples in hope they'll have children, as well as to provide some security for those children. Therefore gay marriages are an oxymoron, since gays don't have children. I personaly don't have anything against gays screwing one another if they find it pleasurable, or living together for that matter, but they shouldn't recieve subsidies intended for people with children.


So just becuase an adopted child happens to have parents that are the same sex, he/she should be denied governmental care by the state, while other children recieve it becuase their parents' sexual organs are different?


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malek
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
So just becuase an adopted child happens to have parents that are the same sex, he/she should be denied governmental care by the state, while other children recieve it becuase their parents' sexual organs are different?


i'm pretty sure the same people who are opposed to gay mariages are opposed to child adoption by same sex couples...


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Originally posted by Cyrus King
So just becuase an adopted child happens to have parents that are the same sex, he/she should be denied governmental care by the state, while other children recieve it becuase their parents' sexual organs are different?


Now as far as child adoption goes, I'm somewhat reluctant on letting homosexual couples adopt children. You must admit that such a family is an unnatural one, and it is questionable whether a child in such family will grow up without some psychological problems. I believe there are some better ways to raise a child in need of adoption.


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squirrelly
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quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
yeah i read that and understand fully, but I don't have to agree with you

This is true. Just like I don't agree with many things that others say. I simply cannot understand your method of thinking on this subject.


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the way they act in public (still have those images engraved in my brain from their last parade)


Not all gays act alike. What about the atroscious way that straights carry on themselves? I have yet to see some gay guy or some lesbian walk up to the other sex out of nowhere and fondle them. Normally they make sure it's okay first . I am sick and tired of how men think it's simply fine to grab my ass or try and fondle me whenever they please. At least gays have some respect.

How they act towards each other in public is their own thing. It's like denying any straight couple the right to cuddle in public.


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hey relax there, no one is taking their rights. All they wants is some extra rights that belong only to couples as it was intended to be.


Couples as it was intended to be? Once again, what makes a gay couple any different than a straight couple? They have healthy relationships, discuss things, live together, do everything else that "couples" do, so why not give them the right to marraige?

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actually no, i can have my own opinions and not be brain washed by some organizations like you(Sorry for the name calling, but it's the truth).


I'm not part of any organization. But I do have a lot of gay friends and I see what they endure on a daily basis.


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you must be really cute all furious send some pics


Heh, My cheeks get all red.


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who said the gay issue should be AN ISSUE? Govt and media gives way too much attention to them, there's more important problems in western societies.


Who said it shouldn't be an issue? To "them"? They are normal people! It's about standing up what this country is supposedly all about, Freedom. Equality. <--- See that word? Equality. There is not Equality if we discriminate simply because of who someone is attracted to.

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since when being gay is part of someone's beliefs


That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the belief to stand up for what they think is right, to love one another freely. The belief to fight for the rights that should have already been given to them.

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exactly, it really doesn't matter, why should the media focus on it then


Because they still haven't been given the rights that are priveledged to them by being a part of this country.


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they can do whatever they want, i really don't question their existence... what i am bothered with is that these people want to banalize something called mariage between a man and woman and want to apropriate their rights.


"These people". They have every right to want the rights that are supposed to be given to them.


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no you're exagerating alot here, i work with some gay people and the only thing that annoys me is their personnality, they always want to show you that their better than you hehehee this always makes me laugh. but anyways


And, a straight person doesn't? Because the majority of straight people aren't jackasses that think that they are better than everyone else? Generalization again...

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The purpose of a civil marriage is to provide beneficial financial situation to the young couples in hope they'll have children, as well as to provide some security for those children. Therefore gay marriages are an oxymoron, since gays don't have children. I personaly don't have anything against gays screwing one another if they find it pleasurable, or living together for that matter, but they shouldn't recieve subsidies intended for people with children.


So you're saying sterile couples shouldn't marry right? They shouldn't be given the option to make their loving home available for a child that has no parents (adoption)?

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Now as far as child adoption goes, I'm somewhat reluctant on letting homosexual couples adopt children. You must admit that such a family is an unnatural one, and it is questionable whether a child in such family will grow up without some psychological problems. I believe there are some better ways to raise a child in need of adoption.


You've got to be kidding me. With all the drug addicts in the world, the rapists, the molestors... You're worried about a gay couple raising a child? They will teach the child to stand up for his/her beliefs, to do what they believe is right, to be their own person.

Children grow up with psychological problems in a normal family. I will not admit that it is questionable, because I think you're generalizing. Just because a couple is gay, does not mean that A) the child will be gay, or B) the child will be raised horrible or C) the child will have psychological problems.

I think if a loving gay couple is willing to open their hearts and home to an adopted child, they should be given the right to. Children need a home. What's better? Having a child be brought up in a welfare home (where there are about 500 kids), or having them brought up in a normal life?


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I prefer msn as a tool for discussion...

feel free to add me: [email protected]

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Just a note, if you intend to use those addresses for regular email, make sure you edit them to say tranceenhancedAThotmail.com or something like that, otherwise they'll peobably be picked up by bots. You'll be snowed under with a deluge of extra spam.


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Just a note, if you intend to use those addresses for regular email, make sure you edit them to say tranceenhancedAThotmail.com or something like that, otherwise they'll peobably be picked up by bots. You'll be snowed under with a deluge of extra spam.


I don't use that email I use a completely different one. *shrugs* The only reason why I even registered is to talk on MSN


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I don't use that email I use a completely different one. *shrugs* The only reason why I even registered is to talk on MSN


Ah, but you don't actually need a hotmail/m$ email to talk on msn. It's possible to use any email, you just need it registered as a passport.

/me realizes that he spends too much time on the internet


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