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Hami
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quote:
Originally posted by cap
I'm not too worried. Kazaa Lite w/ firewall and IP spoofer should do finely.


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Crazy Serb
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Bah... I'm not worried. Using soulseek to share files ONLY with those people on my list and having public access to my files OFF, way to go.


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Dj Smitty20
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quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Rocco - do you share those backups with others?

Sorry to be blunt, but if you're downloading copyrighted music that you don't own with no intention of buying, you deserve everything you get.


another "it's stealing!!" whiner eh? It's too bad there isn't a middle finger emoticon on here......

At the price of music (CD's, records) these days...no fucking wonder people download. People should have the right to share their music...the next step will be to ban people from exchanging/burning each other's CD's.

Oh, and by the way, I DO buy music....music that's worth buying.


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Old Post Dec-16-2003 20:22  Canada
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Rocco
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
another "it's stealing!!" whiner eh? It's too bad there isn't a middle finger emoticon on here......




that's it, meet my ignore list foo


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Old Post Dec-16-2003 20:35  Egypt
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Dj Smitty20
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quote:
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that's it, meet my ignore list foo


and I care because?


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Old Post Dec-16-2003 20:36  Canada
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Muff2K
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Canada

damn tightasses at the CRIA, why must canadians always give in to big brother's demands


i guess we just gotta rely on the europeans to share to us, and we share nothing at all

and what kills me the most is that they will never be able to stop piracy, whether its music, games, movies, programs


pirates always have a way to survive. when old pirates die, new ones take their place..


ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!


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Old Post Dec-16-2003 21:38  Poland
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Vivid Boy
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u know what its the music industries fault..theyve been fuckin ripping off consumers for years...the artists make an album with 3 worth while tracks on it the rest of the album filled with shi charge us 20 bucks for it then start whinning when we find a way to rip them off right bacl...whaa my cd sales went down...fuck off thats all i got to say...most artists make money on their live performances anyways rather then selling their albums...bah fuck em..they dont want us to file share well they cant prosecute a whole fuckin country so lets keep on doing it..come track my fuckin op u come to my house or send a sapena ill kill joo...easy enuff

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torontotrance
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i can't wait for this...seriously...the cdn version of the riaa is going to run into some laws. Canadian Privacy Laws are strict and I doubt they will not run into them. The American Privacy Laws are very different, I see a long drawn out court battle. I see Rogers or Sympatico taking them to court over privacy issues. Brillant! but seriously I wonder how the courts will treat this and I wonder how they will get around the privacy laws in Canada.

Now about the music industry, see the fuckwits at the music industry HQ were told in 1997 that mp3's were the wave of the future but the old bastards passed on it. YOUR LOSS! and after ripping us off for years with sub par music and brutally high music prices (for which they ended up settling with the Justice dept in the states). Have'nt they learned that not changing with the times or not giving your market what it wants, gets you nowhere. So they blame this evil mp3 and filesharing for their losses in a tight global market in a downturn and seriously if you looked into the companies, they are producing less artists...and since they are spending this money on lawyer fees and ads against this and all this crappy technology...where does the money come from....the consumers always pay the burden. Maybe if they got smart and decided to give the public more of what they wanted, which is quality music. Is that too much to ask, give me a decent product and I will buy it. If it was not for mp3's then I would not be writing for ivibes, not be on tranceaddict and not be into dance music. My gosh my cd list grows all the time and all the money i've spent on that, without mp3's, I would have never got into it. Frankly I know the cdn recording industry has ppl who read boards like this and they should learn to effectively market their artists. 10 yrs down the road, they will be a case study for how not changing your strategy in a global environment hurts sales. They can blame mp3's all the want, the sales went down 450 million, bullshit, what are they comparing it to? their own greedy projections, 1999?. I'm sick of the bullshit lies that the media is throwing at us. I enjoy buying cd's but they will probably take the fun out of that and they will lose business.

Old Post Dec-16-2003 22:45  Canada
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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

i think another problem with the quality of music, is the actual contracts that artists and record companies sign. Rather than signing an artist to a 3 album multi million dollar deal, why not pay the artist on how well the cd actually does. This would help prevent an arist from making a good first album, the record company signing them and giving a shit load of moeny, and they the artist writting 2 more CRAP albums just to fullfill the contract.

if they actually had to work for their money, the artits would really make a good album. Ever notice how the first album is usually the best? its cause they could care less about the rest of the albums...they just want to collect their fuckin money.

and the rediculous prices for cds. I pay 25cents a cdr and you know the companies pay less than that. After production and licencing and all that bull, cost is probably like 5 bucks. how is charging 17.99 for a 5 dollar piece of packaged crap fair? And what about us EDM lovers? We have to pay 25 minimum for an album, and you know dance artists get paid way less than mainstream artits, yet their cd prices are super high.

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'mju:zik
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Orangethumb Land, currently TO

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Rocco - do you share those backups with others?

Sorry to be blunt, but if you're downloading copyrighted music that you don't own with no intention of buying, you deserve everything you get.


can you read? they're targeting UPLOADERS. dumbass.


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Dj Smitty20
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Location: your toilet

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
i can't wait for this...seriously...the cdn version of the riaa is going to run into some laws. Canadian Privacy Laws are strict and I doubt they will not run into them. The American Privacy Laws are very different, I see a long drawn out court battle. I see Rogers or Sympatico taking them to court over privacy issues. Brillant! but seriously I wonder how the courts will treat this and I wonder how they will get around the privacy laws in Canada.

Now about the music industry, see the fuckwits at the music industry HQ were told in 1997 that mp3's were the wave of the future but the old bastards passed on it. YOUR LOSS! and after ripping us off for years with sub par music and brutally high music prices (for which they ended up settling with the Justice dept in the states). Have'nt they learned that not changing with the times or not giving your market what it wants, gets you nowhere. So they blame this evil mp3 and filesharing for their losses in a tight global market in a downturn and seriously if you looked into the companies, they are producing less artists...and since they are spending this money on lawyer fees and ads against this and all this crappy technology...where does the money come from....the consumers always pay the burden. Maybe if they got smart and decided to give the public more of what they wanted, which is quality music. Is that too much to ask, give me a decent product and I will buy it. If it was not for mp3's then I would not be writing for ivibes, not be on tranceaddict and not be into dance music. My gosh my cd list grows all the time and all the money i've spent on that, without mp3's, I would have never got into it. Frankly I know the cdn recording industry has ppl who read boards like this and they should learn to effectively market their artists. 10 yrs down the road, they will be a case study for how not changing your strategy in a global environment hurts sales. They can blame mp3's all the want, the sales went down 450 million, bullshit, what are they comparing it to? their own greedy projections, 1999?. I'm sick of the bullshit lies that the media is throwing at us. I enjoy buying cd's but they will probably take the fun out of that and they will lose business.


Great post...I agree with everything you just said. If it had never been for my friend popping in Magik 6 and Magik 5 (both on burned CD's) into the cd player in my dad's truck one day back in the late summer of 2000...I probably never would have got into this music. Once I heard those CD's (I wasn't quite 18) at the time, I went out and downloaded everything I could from Dj Tiesto and the artists on the Magik Cd's...at one time, I had all the albums burned and everything...from there, I found my way in the wonderful world of EDM. Now I'm 21, have a good part time job and more money to throw around...so naturally, I buy a lot of music. I own approximately 35 trance mix cd's and albums and 48 records...some of which I imported through Dancegrooves which cost me a fucking fortune!

But I still download tracks and livesets...oh you're damn right I do..and I always will. People can call it stealing all they want, but it's the reality of the music industry these days. I feel sorry for the few buggers that will get fucked when the CRIA legal push hits its peak. If CD's would cost 5 bucks each (they don't cost much more than that to produce), we'd all buy more music...but it's just more of the "greedy corporation" syndrome with the Music Industry...especially the American one.


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Old Post Dec-17-2003 01:49  Canada
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Skipper
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quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
another "it's stealing!!" whiner eh? It's too bad there isn't a middle finger emoticon on here......

At the price of music (CD's, records) these days...no fucking wonder people download. People should have the right to share their music...the next step will be to ban people from exchanging/burning each other's CD's.

Oh, and by the way, I DO buy music....music that's worth buying.


Do you have any idea how much (or, more appropriately, how little) of a profit margin those artists make on their CDs?
Why should that artist get cheated out of money for honest work? Wouldn't you be pissed if one day, you got half the paycheque for the same amount of work at your job?

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