I am actually quite torn about the subject. It is a rather strong dosage of medicine, and if abused can lead to indefinate steralization. On the one hand those of us who would not abuse the privilages will benifit from this greatly, the other hand however is those of us who would abuse the rights.
After careful consideration I am most sure that my decision would lean more so towards the negative, I do not believe the M.A.P should be found on a shelf. There isn't a Doctor in the world who would turn down a patient asking for that prescription, it comes down to being pure lazy. Its apparently too much effort to take that extra hour or so out of your day to go to the clinic. There should be no excuse for not going to the Doctor, you were mature enough to make the mistake, and realise it was a mistake, now all you have to do is fix it!

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Originally posted by LAYLA-KEKET I am actually quite torn about the subject. It is a rather strong dosage of medicine, and if abused can lead to indefinate steralization. On the one hand those of us who would not abuse the privilages will benifit from this greatly, the other hand however is those of us who would abuse the rights. After careful consideration I am most sure that my decision would lean more so towards the negative, I do not believe the M.A.P should be found on a shelf. There isn't a Doctor in the world who would turn down a patient asking for that prescription, it comes down to being pure lazy. Its apparently too much effort to take that extra hour or so out of your day to go to the clinic. There should be no excuse for not going to the Doctor, you were mature enough to make the mistake, and realise it was a mistake, now all you have to do is fix it!

what if you can't get to the doctor within 72 hours? busy working women, it certainly happens. do you want to tell your boss that you have to go get a prescription because the condom broke last night?

i also don't believe in laws or regulations designed "for your own protection." if a woman is going to abuse m.a.p., then sterility is the price she'll pay. of course, it probably won't stop her from suing

I do see your point, very well actually, but do you really see mine? Yes, one does have 72 hours to go fix a potential problem... If in three days you can't be bothered to take and hour or so out of your time, then however did you end up in the situation to begin with? And my issue isn't with older working women who know the results of their actions, generally for them its a good idea. I am talking about the younger kids aged 10-20, who tend to make rash decisions they end up regretting later. A 16 year old is going to be more concerned with the issue of having to tell someone she's been having sex, rather than just take responsibility for it. If she had to go to a Doctor they would point out over usage and warn her of said conquences.
I don't think a woman later on should remain childless because of a few mistakes she made when she was a teenager, do you?

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PRESIDENT SIGNS "PARTIAL BIRTH" ABORTION BAN, DECLARING "NEVER AGAIN SHALL UPPITY SNATCHES THWART GOD'S WILL TO CREATE SEVERELY DEFORMED FETUSES IN HIS IMAGE!" Statement by the President THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Good afternoon. I'm pleased that all of you could join me as the "Partial Birth" Abortion Act of 2003 becomes the law of the land. I especially want to thank Reverend Falwell for coming. We made it a point to seat you front and center, Jerry – on account of how you just ooze love for all peoples. For too many years now, liberal doctors have been practicing a procedure known as "Intact Dilation and Extraction." Indeed, Attorney General Ashcroft has gathered solid intelligence indicating that this emergency procedure has been performed as many as 2500 times since 1973. Heck, that's almost as many Iraqi and Afghan babies as I've killed since January! (Shouts of "Amen.") That's what I said! So anyways, I want to explain how Intact Dilation and Extraction worked before I renamed it "partial birth abortion" and backed this bill to make it a felony. To do that, I'd like all of you fellas in the audience who made this law a reality to close your eyes and pretend that you're actually a woman. (Raucous Laughter.) I know, I know. Ridiculous. But bear with me for a minute. Got your eyes closed? Good. Now pretend you're all preggers. Not just recently-knocked-up preggers, but like late-term super-preggers. You're fat, and ugly, and your husband's so grossed out by your bloated librarian ass, that he's coming home late from Harken Energy every night after plowing his secretary while doing lines of blow off her tits. (Hoots.) Yeah, we've all been there. So anyway, you're real preggers – like just over six months – and your plan is to become a mommy. Then one day, you go in for your checkup, and they tell you that Jesus has decided to flex his mighty love muscle by afflicting your womb booger with one of his most beautiful congenital deformities – like anencephaly, severe spina bifida, or extreme hydrocephalus. You're told that when you carry it to term, not only will God probably kill that baby himself within mere hours or days, but He might just kill you during delivery, AND will sure as hell put your family in the poor house unless you've got one sweetheart federal insurance package! (Laughter.) Right, like we let anyone have those except us! But anyway, here's where it really gets crazy. Did you know that under such circumstances, there are actually man-hating lezbo liberal baby killers out there who want to take steps to interfere with God Almighty's all-knowing and all-merciful plan to kill and/or bankrupt her by hatching that severely deformed thing-child into the world? They don't seem to understand that the Lord wants that little monster to be born – if for no other reason than to amuse Himself watching it struggling to move its 30-pound watermelon head around! (Cheers.) My sentiments exactly! But what do these tramps go and do? They ask their so-called physicians – blood-thirsty murderers who pretend to know what they're talking about simply because they wasted twelve years studying medicine instead of going AWOL and watching baseball – what options are available to them to take a big steaming dump right on the Lord's face! (Gasps.) And what do those "doctors" tell them? They say that there's one procedure – Intact Dilation & Extraction – which is reserved almost exclusively for fabulously rare circumstances such as this. They say it ain't pretty, and that 99 percent of the time, it involves imploding an deformed, incomplete fetus skull through which brain tissue is already protruding. They say that if they don't get have Intact Dilation & Extraction, they might just die. (Boos.) That's what I said! I mean, can you believe it? These girly-girls are never happy. The damned liberals already went and gave them the right to vote and wear pants, and now they want to be able to live? Unreal! Which is why when Pat Robertson called me up and said that outlawing this bitch-saving abomination was almost as important to him as nuking the State Department, I hopped on board right away! And today, here we are! Intact Dilation & Extraction is about to become ILLEGAL! (Cheers.) Hard to believe it's been just seven months since the Senate passed this ban. Because as I said back in March, this is a huge victory in our tireless incremental plot to completely and permanently ban all forms of abortion. It's all about the baby steps, folks. Before you know it, there won't be a single knocked-up slut in this grand country of ours who will even dream about messing around with her insides once she's got a coochie full of man chutney. I mean, if the good Lord meant women to have any say over their bodies, would he have put those sweet little penis pockets between their legs? Hell no! And if the ladies keep nagging about this, well, we'll take back that rib, too! (Applause.) Furthermore, I swear to all of you that the Executive Branch – which means, like, the Marines, Delta Force, and all the paramilitary domestic death squads at my disposal – will vigorously dispatch any highfalutin judge who thinks it's his job to interpret and make rulings about law. And in just a few decades, the uteruses of this country's shirt-ironing, potroast-basting baby makers will be declared National Parks, subject to strict statutes making it a federal offense for womenfolk to so much as squeeze a bottle of Massengill into themselves without direct permission from yours truly. (Applause.) I want to thank Senator Rick Santorum in particular for sponsoring this bill in the Senate. I know how much he struggled with the moral and philosophical implications of banning this procedure – especially knowing that around 10% of those 2500 almost unimaginably deformed fetuses were also homos in waiting. Fortunately, inasmuch as Rickos was instrumental in derailing Hate Crimes legislation last June, he can take solace knowing that any fag octopus babies saved by the Partial Birth Abortion ban can still be fatally gay-bashed with impunity. (Cheers.) In closing, I want to thank you all for joining me for this historic bill signing. My only regret is that there are only twelve letters in my signature – meaning just twelve golden pens to be auctioned off for $2,000.00 a pop at my next campaign stop. (Applause.) My poppy once said to me: "Abortion is a politically tricky thing, Junior. That's why you must never let anyone know about the illegal one you paid for in Houston back in 1970." That oh-so-Presidential wisdom and spirit is reflected in the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, which I am now honored to sign into law. God bless. (The bill is signed.) (Applause.) Thank you, all. (Applause.)

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Published on Thursday, December 18, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer Hard to Swallow Objections to Pill by Connie Schultz Women's sex lives made Page One in newspapers around the country yesterday. Needless to say, this did not bring out the best in conservatives who think we shouldn't even be having sex unless it's for birthin' babies. Two advisory committees for the Food and Drug Administration voted 23 to 4 Tuesday to allow over-the-counter sales of an emergency contraceptive commonly called the "morning-after pill." The drug, a megadose of the synthetic hormone found in birth-control pills, is also called Plan B, so named as a backup after Plan A - regular contraception - fails or is skipped. FDA Commissioner Dr. Mark McClellan will make the final decision, but opponents and supporters expect he'll go along with the recommendation within a matter of weeks. The country's largest gynecologists group, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, says allowing over-the-counter sales could cut in half the 3 million unwanted pregnancies each year. Abortion opponents, who ought to be uncorking champagne bottles at this news, instead argue the morning-after pill is just another form of abortion. The science says otherwise. The pill delays ovulation and prevents fertilization by sperm cells. It has no effect if a woman is pregnant. If she's pregnant before she pops the little white pill, she'll be pregnant long after she swallows. It's easy to see abortion opponents' dilemma: If abortions decrease in number, so will the number of patients available for terrorizing outside clinics in the wee morning hours. Career change is always hard. Perhaps abortion foes finally might shift their focus from other women's bodies and lead the drive to adopt all those babies they insist must be born. Many of the same groups who opposed the birth-control pill told the FDA panel that easier access to the morning-after pill encourages "irresponsible sexual behavior." Translation: Women will have sex just because they like it. Let's not get that rumor started. It's bad enough that Dr. David Grimes of Family Health International hailed the FDA decision as "truly enabling and empowering women." I'm sure he was trying to be helpful, but the last thing we need is someone broadcasting to the far right that sex without fear of pregnancy frees up women to do other things, too, like have careers, wage peace and hold elected office. What was he thinking? Now, there is yet another objection to the morning-after pill. Apparently, there is some confusion over just how smart we are. You'd think the instructions on how to take the morning-after pill are self-evident. It is, after all, called the morning after. We're not talking after fresh-water snorkeling. It's after s-e-x. Opponents, though, including Bush's lamentable FDA appointee, Dr. W. David Hager, worry that we women will be unable to wrap our pretty little heads around the instructions for its use. Hager is the same doctor who refuses to prescribe contraception for his unmarried patients and urges them to pray their way through heinous PMS symptoms. Granted, many women pray during such times of hormonal hell, but their pleas tend toward, "Please, God, don't let me kill 'em." This prayer is gender neutral. In fact, it is not even human specific, because on our worst days we wonder why God lets even trees live. Still, if a doctor says the instructions are unclear, I thought it only fair that I try to decipher them for myself. The kind folks at Planned Parenthood of Greater Cleveland gave me a sample packet. To make it as difficult as possible, I imagined being a sexually active teenager who had abstinence-only sex education. Would I, could I, understand what I was reading? Instruction No. 1: Take the first tablet as soon as possible within 72 hours of unprotected sex. Instruction No. 2: Take the second tablet 12 hours after you take the first tablet. I think we women can handle it. Besides, we're used to being underestimated. C 2003 The Plain Dealer

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Last edited by DaveSZ on Dec-21-2003 at 21:28

its a double-edged sword really, i mean the seriousness of the matter (pregnancy) is kinda dulled by the fact that it can be "fixed" by popping a pill that you can get along with cough medicine at walgreen's...

anyways should it be approved, i think clinics can expect to see a significant increase in stds because unedumacated dumbfacks who don't do anything else but fack , will be led to believing that it also stops stds and before we know it, there will be a real AIDS epidemic at hand. well, i guess population has to be controlled somehow... hmm... i think i used this all-goes-to-hell scenario elsewhere...

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