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ravan
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New York/Tampa, USA

Ikronix or anyone - care to share some actual samples of 'big hits' or just generic ones?

Doing the melodies is easy enough for me, but I am not very good with the chords. I guess I could perhaps load some midi files and look - maybe I'll try that

Great tips everyone!

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Sebraa
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Tallinn
Re: Chord progressions

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Originally posted by ravan
One of my main problems is to come up with chord progressions that work well for trance.

Can some of the pro's share a few tips? I tried some of the 'usual' I-IV-V stuff but doesnt seem to work well for me.



You can always play your favourite track and use same time your synth for testing the melodies and chords! -> works for me very good

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Ikronix
Let me speak from experience:

Even a basic knowledge of music theory will help you write music better. Trial and error worked alright for me, but after one (one!) quarter of music theory in college, I was able to recognize WHY melodies and chords work.

And multiple quarters later, you learn many more interesting things.

As was mentioned earlier, most recent 'big' trance songs are in a minor key. It adds a bit of tension, while still allowing things to be upbeat.

And a ton of Psy/Goa is on the harmonic minor, diddling around the upper notes in the scale, around that augmented 2nd interval...


You mean augmented seventh? Augmented second is in the minor scale (3rd). Playing natural then occasionally augmented 7th's gives it that infected mushroom horror movie sound (though it can sound bad if you overuse the augmented 7ths...).


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Mossy
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forgive the newbieness of this question but should chord progressions be mainly used for the pad sounds? My chords sound really lush with a nice fat pad playing them. If thats not what there used for, then I guess I can use a pad on them in one of my tracks anyway, as it sounds really nice!

My other question is when creating a faster/harder/darker sounding chord progression, is it more down to the instrument used of the chords? I tried playing the same chords with a pad and a dark hoover style synth and they really did sound nicer with the pad. Any advice on where to begin with the darker, hard trance/uk hard house sounds?

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chrispitcha
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Mossy you gimp with a limp, gimme an email explaining as clearly as you can, what exactly you want to know bout chords.

I'll print it off and give it to my keyboard teacher.

What he doesnt know, isnt worth knowing.

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Dave_Abr
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I'm wondring if someone wil ask me what is the defenition of chords what should i need to say? how you will explain it?

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Sebraa
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave_Abr
I'm wondring if someone wil ask me what is the defenition of chords what should i need to say? how you will explain it?


More then one finger on synth same time easy


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Dave_Abr
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quote:
Originally posted by Sebraaa12
More then one finger on synth same time easy

simpley putted...

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Mossy
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quote:
Originally posted by chrispitcha
Mossy you gimp with a limp, gimme an email explaining as clearly as you can, what exactly you want to know bout chords.

I'll print it off and give it to my keyboard teacher.

What he doesnt know, isnt worth knowing.


ask him what chords are good for a 150bpm track... seriously! I mean UK Hard house speeds. I reckon that chords arent really used that much in hard house but i could be wrong? Been caning HH tracks all day and all i can come up with is that they use very basic patterns like C-C-(vquick C)-E-C etc... nothing amazing, it seems to work though.

Regarding nice chords, try C Em G D with a nice pad sound. The change between D back to C sounds quality imo!

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Prop
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I really don't know how i make the chord progressions, i usually start with the lead progression and build under it.

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The Designer
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quote:
Originally posted by Prop
I really don't know how i make the chord progressions, i usually start with the lead progression and build under it.


That's also my method


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