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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Kuala Lumpur

yeah I'm using technics ...

The thing is... I didn't plan on splashing on Ortofons as I just spent a bit getting my decks n mixer. I had a choice between Shure m447s and the AL-IIs which were around the same price (Initial choice was m44Gs but they were out of stock).

After reading many reviews I shunned the m447s just coz they were scratch needles so i got the AL-IIs. Now I'm getting people telling me that the m447s are way better than the AL-IIs in terms of sound quality, and for the same price should have gone with the m447s. Can anyone verify this?



But as for my next needles I'm definitely getting Concordes.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

Actually from my own experience I will say that you made the right choice.

I used to be a turntablist and had the Shure M447s. Whilst they do have supperior sound to any of the cartridges you mentioned in your previous post the problem with them is the way you have to mount them. You actually have to twist the cart about 27 to 30 degrees to ensure that it doesn't skip all over the place. This can have an impact on the way the cartridge wears the records and I found in a lot of cases it used to wear the outside (Or inside, can't remember which) groove of the record. It's all to do with how centrifugal forces work but can't remember where I read it. It's a fact that turntablists wear out records anyway so it's a common problem whatever needles you use.

The other thing about the shures is the way you have to distribute the weight with them. Again, they become quite heavy on the record which adds additional wear.

The downside for you though is that the shures have a better re-sale value than the ones you currently have.

I use concordes frequently at the places I work and I also have them at home. I have no complaints with them. Also Shure White labels are nice but I hear that they still have a few teething problems.
Come to think of it, it seems that way with a lot of the shure stuff, it's damn good but there is sometimes a little minor niggle there.

There are also people who will say that Ortofons are crap and bla bla bla you get the picture. If you can, ask for a demonstration in the shop and make up your own mind.

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rafale
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Registered: Sep 2003
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Thanks for your opinion Nem. I guess whats done is done and I'll just haveto be happy with my AL-IIs for the time being.

And by the way, my AL-IIs skip quite a bit though and I have to use a 1g weight for each needle plus 3g on the counterweight. Is that too heavy in your opinion..?

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No, you should be ok.

Naturally it will create more wear on your records but to be honest it probably wont be that noticable if you notice it at all.

As turntablists we even put coins on top of the cart to stop them from skipping. That however causes major damage to both stylus and record.

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I would suggest concordes for the non skipping element anyway, the sound quality is also a huge bonus

Highly recommended- i use them every night with no problems

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