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Originally posted by djway Hosting the files, when they drop off the front page or what ever (IE 2 weeks after putting them up) we'd no longer need to host them, so bandwidth (or server space) wouldn't be too much of an issue.

Ahhhhhh OK - so it'd be an all you can eat situation for about 2 weeks + then the file goes offline? Maybe that's when BT can come into play?

Also, maybe instead of a time limit we could implement a limit on the amount of downloads per file until it is moved offline? This would help more with budgeting for how much bandwidth would cost...

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My idea, which is flexiable, was to keep it HTTP based for people who can only download of the web(port 80 and or 8080) not via firewalls etc [people like me @ work ]. The + for BT is it's cheaper, the - is there's no solid back bone to begin with. HTTP 1000 people can click the link then go search in their fav P2P program and it should turn up anyhow.

Aha! Well, it sounds like a good enough reason I guess... Nothing can beat the reliability of HTTP transfers direct from something as fat as your FTP's connection... Esp when comparing to the erratic way BT + other P2P software can sometimes run...


And with the work thing, that makes sense too... People would be more likely to make use of a fast work Net connection esp if they are stuck on 56k at home still ( to those who are! )... This would mean it's just a simple click + wait situation rather than having to worry about installing software + poking holes thru firewalls, etc...

The only issue with direct HTTP downloading is that (as per previous post) it would be quite easy for people to steal links + such... Would a simple download script be needed or something more in-depth like Anti-Leech? What would the cost be of Anti-Leech or similar options?

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In regards to content, you're not alone with wanting to have something more then just a leeching page, I've been PM'd by someone about that already. I'll count you in, and if the numbers turn up we can start talking more about content and the ways of hosting the acutal files. --djway PS Had a feeling this would catch your eye

OK cool! Let me know where this goes... Let's hope we have a good response from people interested in taking part in this!

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Originally posted by mikey79 OK cool! Let me know where this goes... Let's hope we have a good response from people interested in taking part in this!

All your q's will be addressed in due time....just wait to see if there's enough interest to warrant me answering (time == money )

--djway

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top idea dude!

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I wont put in this month, but next month ill consider it again as next month i start my unlimited download adsl. This month im still on a 1 gig plan so its pointless for me atm! But i definately like the idea!! Bout time we had some good hosted sets!

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one thing i havent noticed anyone talking about was actually getting the money of each person who gets in

sure it'd prolly go well for a couple of months but i feel you would start having troubles getting it each month of people untill some people just start dropping out altogether

kinda like the t-shirt idea?

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Originally posted by Lanithium one thing i havent noticed anyone talking about was actually getting the money of each person who gets in sure it'd prolly go well for a couple of months but i feel you would start having troubles getting it each month of people untill some people just start dropping out altogether kinda like the t-shirt idea?

6 months up front is what i'm thinking. then @ 5 months another 6 months. That's a year which would be the hosting contract.

Once this was rolling I think more people would be enclined to join personally, but we'll see (hopefully).

--djway

EDIT: or even 3 month batches for payments

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I'd be in for this....

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Guys I have not had time to read this entire thread, but Josh gave me the link.. he wanted me to tell you about this:

WHITE RABBIT !!

whitetrabbit.trancetribe.com

Essentially this is our new web server, which is specifically for storage of files.

That is, MP3 sets, and photos.

whiterabbit will be at the heart of the new trancetribe 2004 web site.

Essentially any DJ or producer will be able to have an account, which enables them to upload an MP3 into their own folder on whiterabbit.trancetribe.com (ftp.trancetribe.com).

The new site will be all dynamically run, meaning the moment you upload an MP3, its instantly available, from the web site, in your DJ or producer profile.

No you don't need to be a pro Dj or producer, you can be an amateur.. since there will be section devoted just to amateurs.

I have unlimited storage, and around 30GB of bandwidth a month. This can easily be upgraded to more bandwidth also.

So, (and without taking anything away from TA.com) essentially the new trancetribe.com will be a place where all trance fiends can store and share their sets and productions.. as well as photos (just like inthemix.com.au)

The server is active now, however I need to really wait until I launch the new TT.com web site before I start letting people upload files..

Willl be VERY soon tho.

Cheers

Scottie

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ahem.. sorry I should have read the rest of this thread. OK.. seems bandwidth is the probelm here.. we'll need a lot, but not as much as you say... we would be setting limits to the amount of files you are allowed to store and to the amount each use can upload per month.

So I can set the site up, well... its already set up.. just not open to the public., but I will need help with the $$$ for the bandwidth!!

I am thinking a yealy subscription fee, not a lot, something between $15 - $30 per year, will give you access to this feature of the site?

Scott

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Originally posted by starsurfer ahem.. sorry I should have read the rest of this thread. OK.. seems bandwidth is the probelm here.. we'll need a terrabyte a month at least. Don't forget that people uploading files to the server will take up bandwidth too!! So I can set the site up, but I will need help with the $$$ for the bandwidth!! Scott

Scotty,

The deal I was looking @ was 60gig HDD space for a 700gig a month for $99USD.

I like the dynamic idea and I also dislike it. How is there going to be a standard of quality? Let's face it some of us suck (/me raises hand), and I don't want my set up next to one of Armin's or something, it's not going to do me or the site any favours.

The other things against what you've got already are purley geeky; it's a subdomain and it's .au(I've been thinking of a straight domain that recognises Australia).

I'd have to say there's not enough room in this country for us to go head to head really. Maybe we could reach some middle ground? I've got about 6 people willing to pay for this so far, I need one more person or something before discussions can begin/ a server purchased. Would be really keen to work something out with you on this.

Cheers,
--djway

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DJway,

definitely interested in talking about this. I would do anything to share some of that bandwidth and space.

You don't NEED TT.com to be able to share the files, remembering that they will be available at whiterabbit.trancetribe.com/djway/setname.mp3

but I hear what you mean. Heck, there isn't anything stopping you from having your site, and also allowing me to pay for some of it, and using the storage also. It could easily work where my site only displays certain files, even though there are lots more availabel for sharing, that's where your site comes in?

I kinda guess TT.com's thing was going to be something like you could go to the DJ profiles page, and then you get to select professional, or amateur. When you go into either.. you get thumbnails and names of Dj's, you choose one and you get their bio, plus a few files you can download, which are their promo sets.

On the home page of trancetribe.com, it would list the 5 newest files available to download. That is essentially how my side of things would work.

Now, i could set whiterabbit.trancetribe.com to point to your server easily, and all I would need is that users files are stores something liked this: 111.222.333.444/username/filename.mp3

If you were happy to store all your files like that also, then I can just integrate the ones I need for my site, while your site will have them all.

Again, I'm not wanting to cause any sort of competition between the two of our sites, so if we can, we can try to push a different image and service:

trancetribe.com: DJ & Producer profiles with downloadable promo MP3s

tranceaddict.com: live set warehouse of all amateur and professional DJ's anywhere!

You see the diff?

Scottie

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