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Renegade
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Blame the Iranians - they gassed them, not Saddam.

That ought to stir the conspiracy pot for awhile.


Well, I don't know about that, but it's certainly a lot murkier than a lot of people would care to admit:

http://quixote-quest.org/resources/...H2O_013103.html


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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Saddam had been kept largely under wraps for the last 12 years of his time in power.


So then, it's OK to let a murderer continue to walk the streets, as long as he doesn't go on another murderous rampage? Furthermore then, it's acceptable to let a murderer maintain dictatorial authority over an entire country until he decides to start killing again? Just let bygones be bygones, right? Come on, that's not how it works. This is probably a major reason that it was an ongoing U.S. policy (Enforced by the beloved Clinton administration ) that regime change in Iraq was a tenet of U.S. foreign policy.

You're basically saying, "It's ok to murder and you get away with it free of consequence, as long as I don't catch you doing it again, at which point I still won't do anything about it because I can't get the French to agree to a final, final, final resolution to take action..." This Iraq conflict is being used as an excuse by non-Bush supporters to criticize him even more because they're bitter that he won (yes WON) the election fair & square. Ah, the irony of moveon.org is farcical.

Final: Forming or occurring at the end; last: the final scene of a film.
-Of or constituting the end result of a succession or process; ultimate: an act with both an immediate and a final purpose.
-Not to be changed or reconsidered; unalterable: The judge's decision is final.

At what point were people going to grow a backbone and mean what they said?

We learned from the Cold War, as well as WWII, and numerous other times in history that a policy of appeasement simply DOES NOT WORK.

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quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Well, I don't know about that, but it's certainly a lot murkier than a lot of people would care to admit:

http://quixote-quest.org/resources/...H2O_013103.html


It's not any murkier. The only difference is that we could possibly subtract one village out of the many that Iraq has used chemical weapons against heh.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...gas#post1374498

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Blame the Iranians - they gassed them, not Saddam.

That ought to stir the conspiracy pot for awhile.


Careful you! Your state is in danger of getting kicked out of the Union considering its only export is preaching!

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quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Well, I don't know about that, but it's certainly a lot murkier than a lot of people would care to admit:

http://quixote-quest.org/resources/...H2O_013103.html


It's not any murkier. The only difference is that we could possibly subtract one village out of the many that Iraq has used chemical weapons against heh.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...gas#post1374498

quote:

Blame the Iranians - they gassed them, not Saddam.

That ought to stir the conspiracy pot for awhile.


Careful you! Your state is in danger of getting kicked out of the Union considering its only export is preaching!

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failsafe
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why can't there ever be a worthwhile canidate to vote for? It's a sad day when ross perot is by far the best canidate.

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Shakka
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You could always write in Turd Furgusen

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Here is a key line from his letter that seems to be getting overlooked that goes right to the root of his hypocrisy:

quote:
If we ignore these behaviors, no matter where they occur, our moral fiber as a people becomes weakened.


Speaks for itself.

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Thankfully Dean is now locked in a three way tie in Iowa and I hope he loses there. I have never liked the guy as a candidate, I will take anyone over Dean for the Democratic nomination, serious candidates that is.


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quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
why can't there ever be a worthwhile canidate to vote for? It's a sad day when ross perot is by far the best canidate.


Vote for Clark.


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actually i'd vote for perrot just to see him talk in public for 4 years. that guy always cracks me up.

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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
Vote for Clark.


I'm waiting for the specific details to emerge as to why Clark was fired/discharged.

I'm no fan of a man who wants to increase the top marginal tax rate to over 45% while letting over 50% of the population essentially pay ZILCH in taxes. That screams of vote buying, not to mention it's an idea which will kill productivity. Fortunately, I don't think he could ever pass such a radical and misguided revenue package.

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quote:
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I'm no fan of a man who wants to increase the top marginal tax rate to over 45% while letting over 50% of the population essentially pay ZILCH in taxes. That screams of vote buying, not to mention it's an idea which will kill productivity. Fortunately, I don't think he could ever pass such a radical and misguided revenue package.


i think that sounds like nice guy

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