coming from Alberta where we have this, I am all for it. deterant or not, it is punishment for breaking the law. And if you werent driving your car, then why did you make the irresponsible decions of lending it to somebody who was going to break the law?
Also, photo radar doesnt add demerits to your liscence, so thats a good thing(insurance wise)

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ikita, are you agaisnt any kind of ticket issued by law enforcement then? After all it must be some form of money grab right?

If you're knowinly breaking the law then you're asking for whatever fine you get via photoradar. It's that simple. It's not like this is some form of tax that's going to degrade peoples standard of living. This is simply a penalty to those that break the law, no different then a littering fine.

meh. Speeding by itself is not the enemy.

The difficulty lies in classifying those who speed with those who drive recklessly/carelessly - there is some crossover of course - but they do not go hand in hand as is often assumed.

For instance, yesterday the weather was beyond nasty - yet there was some mofo in his wannabe 4x4 (sidekick) flying going about 110 on the highway and then he had to brake and he skidded sideways for a bit across 2 lanes (on the 400) before regaining control.. everyone else was going at about 70.. I'd much rather have them (and tailgaters) / drivers who cut others off / drivers who hog the left lane given fines than someone on a clear stretch of road going over the speed limit.

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well, I think we should be willing to allow a few promises to be broken.

There's not a whole lot you can do with such a huge deficit. Instead of keeping the promises they made, they are gonna spend the next few years cleaning up the mess the Tories left.

Campaign promises would have been broken no matter who is running the government... they just don't have the cash.

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Originally posted by Swamper meh. Speeding by itself is not the enemy. The difficulty lies in classifying those who speed with those who drive recklessly/carelessly - there is some crossover of course - but they do not go hand in hand as is often assumed.

Exactly, speed is not the problem. According to our way of thinking and how dangerous speed is, apply that same thinking to Germany and half the drivers should be dead! Drive on the autobahns, it's not that dangerous. People speed, but they also drive responsibly and abide by the laws and unwritten rules of the road, a little respect for other drivers goes a long ways.

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Originally posted by tw1tch The speed limits need to be increased, they're too old. 100KM/h on the 4xx highways, are you kidding? Second (general to everyone) yes he's breaking campaign promises, he also was not aware of the huge deficit we have because of our previous government. Basing your goals on false information is bound to change those goals, it's inevitable.

I agree with the first, disagree with the second. I'm not entirely convinced that Dalton had no idea what he was getting in for. He's not new to politics - he led the opposition for how long? - he must have had some sense of the state of the federal budget.

Nah, he saw the book that the Tories left and thought how the fuck can we give the municipal gov't money when we have to pay down the 5.6 B debt. So I saw on the news that all the money would go to the municipal gov't's all over the province. We have had photo radar in certain intersections for a while now. At least they are not putting in the famous british speed cameras for a cash grab.

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Originally posted by Swamper meh. Speeding by itself is not the enemy. The difficulty lies in classifying those who speed with those who drive recklessly/carelessly - there is some crossover of course - but they do not go hand in hand as is often assumed. For instance, yesterday the weather was beyond nasty - yet there was some mofo in his wannabe 4x4 (sidekick) flying going about 110 on the highway and then he had to brake and he skidded sideways for a bit across 2 lanes (on the 400) before regaining control.. everyone else was going at about 70.. I'd much rather have them (and tailgaters) / drivers who cut others off / drivers who hog the left lane given fines than someone on a clear stretch of road going over the speed limit.

You're totally right Del, the difficulty then becomes policing these tools. How do we do this? Of course, it's near impossible. This is why speeding is enforced so ridiculously much already... It's so easy (and much more lucrative) for some cop (or camera) to sit there with a radar gun. This = lazyman's justice.

speed limits should not be raised, as it is, gas consumption raises significantly in most cars after 90, its not only unsafe, but more danger to the environment.

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Originally posted by itikia I think you missed the point. The only reason why McGuinty wants this system put in place is to generate revenue. He does not care whether or not you obey the law and actually in this case he would prefer if you broke it. Now don't you think there is something ethically wrong with that? I mean, laws are in place for reasons OTHER than to generate revenue. itikia

It doesnt matter. Your point seems very hollow. the fact of the matter is if your'e driving within the speed limits then this shouldnt bother you at all. or are you one of those speed freaks? cause if you are then tough luck. who gives a shit man, as long as you obey the law, then what do you care.

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juss outta curiousity, but has anyone here every gotten hit with a ticket cuz of photo-radar ?

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