'tis crobar....

www.crobar.com

i can't give an unbiased opinion cuz i'm nyta.

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ok...to be honest with you i love the nyc night life...but, it has died since they closed down all the great clubs like the historic twilo , tunnel and limelight..

the only venue that is doing trance gigs are the roxy which is a huge club like jp said.. you wouldn't want to go to sound factory, unless ur gay. it has turned into a gay crowd ever since they b00t jonathan peters out of the saturday spot and im place of junior vasquez which catters to a gay following.

i mostly hit lounges like deep, lotus, cheetah etc etc... avalon , the old limelight should have a good lineup around the end of january for example mauro picotto on the 31st and then ferry on the 28th of feb..NOW DON'T FORGET IF YOU ARE IN THE CITY ON FEB 27TH , DONT YOU MISS PVD AT THE ROXY heh...

arc is an underground scene with no alcholic beverages whatsoever...if your an alcoholic, this is not a place to go.

you might want to hit crobar! you might love that place....

new york city will be a very diff , adventure for you....yes, it will be diff from what you are accustomed there in england coz the scene is very diff...we over here catters to house music, yet over there trance is huge and hardstyle...so you really can't compare. if you have an open mind, then you will have a BLAST.

good luck and i hope you will enjoy our city...

indy

ps
pm me if you have any questions, i would love to help you out

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Originally posted by tu_face being a regular visitor to new york, im sure i speak for everyone when i say that all the best clubs are in the hood, in the projects, or near ground zero.

Am risking the wrath of tu face...but have to say

Stop messin with my lad dammit!!
Dont make me come over there to straighten you out

It is unseemly and makes me ill to see this, geez why slag your own cause you hate us americans

I was there in november and was glad to meet the london lot they were the best to me but I am appalled at this bs above, ban me if you like

Lest you forget none of us would be here if it was not for NY clubbing, we gave you punk rock, we gave you the gay club culture that evolved into EDM

NYC is not a joke so let it be and chil alreaddy with the ameri-bashing "humor"...hey it's not the first or the last one I know but do you think theres a valid motive to be judgemental a simple enquiry


one comparison FYI
England and surrounding environs of countries/ European culture began centuries ago lets use 1000 AD as a starting point though it was much earlier.= 1004 years
USA/(Your New World btw) founded 1700 = 304 years

ok so thats like me at 30 years old beating up a 10 year old kid because he cant read Ulysees of course we will make mistakes growing up or not knowing all we should
OUR govt is appaling as well of course, we got screwed as we DID elect Al Gore for our President, but an antiquated electoral system and incompetence was the order of the day so we ended up with Bush
We the people, do not represent our foreign
policy or for that matter teen pop culture (remember the kids here cant drink till there 21 so they have to entertain themselves in some way) ie, B. Spears, 50 cent, p. diddy, J. Timberlake, J. Simpson, C. Agueilera, etc. All only millionaires due to rich white american youth, including the gangsta rappers who do not sell in the black community as most would beleive they do.

Original poster is my mate and I know you couldnt give a fuck what some lame american posts here in your forum but regardless of that, Again I say quit it already and dont english mums say, like ours, "if you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything at all" or perhaps i am missing a long tradition something as our lot always does.
Cant fathom what that may be though.

drop the attitude there just because he's new how will that help us nurture a beneficial community for all. I am older than any of you, Yet still am treated as newbie, so I know my attempt here means zilch, I got the hint to go away but some things cant be left alone on sheer principle.

If you never come to NYC that is OK, attitude influences our entire existence so you will assure youreslf you will not miss anything, but others might have the night of their dreams here in New York city. Who can say it is all subjective.

Pure ignorance or must be required to actually say to someone go check out a club closeby ground zero. Am I the only one who sees the depravity of this as a joke? If you saw the workers jumping from 100 odd floors to escape the jetfuel inferno, merely because they were in a half hour early for work? you would not go there. It is another "dumb americans" joke here right? Well let me say something I may ask dumb noob questions here on TA sometimes, I always try to figure stuff out on my own first and I have a fucking brain, though years of drinking has eroded it somewhat without question, but never would I think ground zero was fair ground for slagging by you lot whether or not you are annoyed by the war on terror BS continuing today, this could have just as randomly been 27 of your best mates going down with the 343. Although you might have been out clubbing the night before, so you perhaps were late to work. Lucky day to be late let me tell you. I was supposed to be up there directly at 9 am myself but was 15 minutes late and saw the impact from the subway riding over the east river.
No Clubs exist at ground zero save for the unrested souls you taunt carelessly

(a note b4 continuing) "i'm sure I speak for everyone" Inferring every UKTA except original poster i guess....
regardless of this all encompassing popular opinion I direct this at everyone included with that....some unjustly maybe, please excuse if thats the case for you.

Even as an American, I am first to say we need some 1) education...yes stupid is as stupid does...and we do it i know, alot.... and for the very clueless, a dollar to buy a clue, and 2) serious change, but there is so little one or even a party encompassing millions can influence, we control so very little if anything. A small circle of washingtons invisible power players, led by Dick Cheney, is in complete control. And they are not even in Washington most of the time so as to not present an assinnation op, how often is he present on TV ....rarely- perhaps during the yearly addresses, thats all. Not because he is second in command, it is because he is secretly and dangerously in control of command without any recourse. But he is no different that any dictator from europe (no none in england i know)

Anyway I sure hope you dont speak for everyone (as you said) regarding ground zero. If you never let me post here again fine with me it was worth it to at least try and let you, and/or whoever/everyone you spoke for see just how wrong wrong wrong it is to be flippant to us (or anyone else!) on this, ************ any other thing you or I said here that one is just fucking out of line on TA, in Buckingham Palace, in your cousins house in Australia, Europe, or anywhere else really outside an Al Queda jhiihad.


You would all be well overrun/ out thought if all us Americans threw away our TV's and did something else for 10 years...but this is sheerly my personal unproven opinion thus keep it separate from the rest of the diatribe.


niteshayde props to you for being civil

politicsofdancin girl i'll get you in the nyta board for yer props all good sister!!! Thanks for being the best to our cockney steven

ok i'm done (yeah i hear you sayin good riddance too)

Cheers all dont mean to toe step and I expect theres two possibilites, no one will post after me as you lot love to ignore my posts and let the thread die rather than validate my comment, or a flurry of "feckoffs dumb yank." either way, i stand by my man and my city and if you want i'll even stand by ground zero in this frigid cold so i can post pics , ie boilerplate TA ...pics or STFU. Never meant for this to be so long but every post has its day, and this ones day is here. Bring it on
if you remotely care at all i do still luv y'all even tu_face but i dont always feel the PLUR in the room comin

jane...you are fucking class...politics...thanks....im on me way

nice post janieliza

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Originally posted by janieliza Am risking the wrath of tu face...but have to say Stop messin with my lad dammit!! Dont make me come over there to straighten you out It is unseemly and makes me ill to see this, geez why slag your own cause you hate us americans I was there in november and was glad to meet the london lot they were the best to me but I am appalled at this bs above, ban me if you like Lest you forget none of us would be here if it was not for NY clubbing, we gave you punk rock, we gave you the gay club culture that evolved into EDM NYC is not a joke so let it be and chil alreaddy with the ameri-bashing "humor"...hey it's not the first or the last one I know but do you think theres a valid motive to be judgemental a simple enquiry one comparison FYI England and surrounding environs of countries/ European culture began centuries ago lets use 1000 AD as a starting point though it was much earlier.= 1004 years USA/(Your New World btw) founded 1700 = 304 years ok so thats like me at 30 years old beating up a 10 year old kid because he cant read Ulysees of course we will make mistakes growing up or not knowing all we should OUR govt is appaling as well of course, we got screwed as we DID elect Al Gore for our President, but an antiquated electoral system and incompetence was the order of the day so we ended up with Bush We the people, do not represent our foreign policy or for that matter teen pop culture (remember the kids here cant drink till there 21 so they have to entertain themselves in some way) ie, B. Spears, 50 cent, p. diddy, J. Timberlake, J. Simpson, C. Agueilera, etc. All only millionaires due to rich white american youth, including the gangsta rappers who do not sell in the black community as most would beleive they do. Original poster is my mate and I know you couldnt give a fuck what some lame american posts here in your forum but regardless of that, Again I say quit it already and dont english mums say, like ours, "if you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything at all" or perhaps i am missing a long tradition something as our lot always does. Cant fathom what that may be though. drop the attitude there just because he's new how will that help us nurture a beneficial community for all. I am older than any of you, Yet still am treated as newbie, so I know my attempt here means zilch, I got the hint to go away but some things cant be left alone on sheer principle. If you never come to NYC that is OK, attitude influences our entire existence so you will assure youreslf you will not miss anything, but others might have the night of their dreams here in New York city. Who can say it is all subjective. Pure ignorance or must be required to actually say to someone go check out a club closeby ground zero. Am I the only one who sees the depravity of this as a joke? If you saw the workers jumping from 100 odd floors to escape the jetfuel inferno, merely because they were in a half hour early for work? you would not go there. It is another "dumb americans" joke here right? Well let me say something I may ask dumb noob questions here on TA sometimes, I always try to figure stuff out on my own first and I have a fucking brain, though years of drinking has eroded it somewhat without question, but never would I think ground zero was fair ground for slagging by you lot whether or not you are annoyed by the war on terror BS continuing today, this could have just as randomly been 27 of your best mates going down with the 343. Although you might have been out clubbing the night before, so you perhaps were late to work. Lucky day to be late let me tell you. I was supposed to be up there directly at 9 am myself but was 15 minutes late and saw the impact from the subway riding over the east river. No Clubs exist at ground zero save for the unrested souls you taunt carelessly (a note b4 continuing) "i'm sure I speak for everyone" Inferring every UKTA except original poster i guess.... regardless of this all encompassing popular opinion I direct this at everyone included with that....some unjustly maybe, please excuse if thats the case for you. Even as an American, I am first to say we need some 1) education...yes stupid is as stupid does...and we do it i know, alot.... and for the very clueless, a dollar to buy a clue, and 2) serious change, but there is so little one or even a party encompassing millions can influence, we control so very little if anything. A small circle of washingtons invisible power players, led by Dick Cheney, is in complete control. And they are not even in Washington most of the time so as to not present an assinnation op, how often is he present on TV ....rarely- perhaps during the yearly addresses, thats all. Not because he is second in command, it is because he is secretly and dangerously in control of command without any recourse. But he is no different that any dictator from europe (no none in england i know) Anyway I sure hope you dont speak for everyone (as you said) regarding ground zero. If you never let me post here again fine with me it was worth it to at least try and let you, and/or whoever/everyone you spoke for see just how wrong wrong wrong it is to be flippant to us (or anyone else!) on this, ************ any other thing you or I said here that one is just fucking out of line on TA, in Buckingham Palace, in your cousins house in Australia, Europe, or anywhere else really outside an Al Queda jhiihad. You would all be well overrun/ out thought if all us Americans threw away our TV's and did something else for 10 years...but this is sheerly my personal unproven opinion thus keep it separate from the rest of the diatribe. niteshayde props to you for being civil politicsofdancin girl i'll get you in the nyta board for yer props all good sister!!! Thanks for being the best to our cockney steven ok i'm done (yeah i hear you sayin good riddance too) Cheers all dont mean to toe step and I expect theres two possibilites, no one will post after me as you lot love to ignore my posts and let the thread die rather than validate my comment, or a flurry of "feckoffs dumb yank." either way, i stand by my man and my city and if you want i'll even stand by ground zero in this frigid cold so i can post pics , ie boilerplate TA ...pics or STFU. Never meant for this to be so long but every post has its day, and this ones day is here. Bring it on if you remotely care at all i do still luv y'all even tu_face but i dont always feel the PLUR in the room comin

As if im going to even attempt to read all that .. this is a msg board .. u submit posts not lectures

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Originally posted by janieliza Am risking the wrath of tu face...but have to say Stop messin with my lad dammit!! Dont make me come over there to straighten you out It is unseemly and makes me ill to see this, geez why slag your own cause you hate us americans I was there in november and was glad to meet the london lot they were the best to me but I am appalled at this bs above, ban me if you like Lest you forget none of us would be here if it was not for NY clubbing, we gave you punk rock, we gave you the gay club culture that evolved into EDM NYC is not a joke so let it be and chil alreaddy with the ameri-bashing "humor"...hey it's not the first or the last one I know but do you think theres a valid motive to be judgemental a simple enquiry one comparison FYI England and surrounding environs of countries/ European culture began centuries ago lets use 1000 AD as a starting point though it was much earlier.= 1004 years USA/(Your New World btw) founded 1700 = 304 years ok so thats like me at 30 years old beating up a 10 year old kid because he cant read Ulysees of course we will make mistakes growing up or not knowing all we should OUR govt is appaling as well of course, we got screwed as we DID elect Al Gore for our President, but an antiquated electoral system and incompetence was the order of the day so we ended up with Bush We the people, do not represent our foreign policy or for that matter teen pop culture (remember the kids here cant drink till there 21 so they have to entertain themselves in some way) ie, B. Spears, 50 cent, p. diddy, J. Timberlake, J. Simpson, C. Agueilera, etc. All only millionaires due to rich white american youth, including the gangsta rappers who do not sell in the black community as most would beleive they do. Original poster is my mate and I know you couldnt give a fuck what some lame american posts here in your forum but regardless of that, Again I say quit it already and dont english mums say, like ours, "if you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything at all" or perhaps i am missing a long tradition something as our lot always does. Cant fathom what that may be though. drop the attitude there just because he's new how will that help us nurture a beneficial community for all. I am older than any of you, Yet still am treated as newbie, so I know my attempt here means zilch, I got the hint to go away but some things cant be left alone on sheer principle. If you never come to NYC that is OK, attitude influences our entire existence so you will assure youreslf you will not miss anything, but others might have the night of their dreams here in New York city. Who can say it is all subjective. Pure ignorance or must be required to actually say to someone go check out a club closeby ground zero. Am I the only one who sees the depravity of this as a joke? If you saw the workers jumping from 100 odd floors to escape the jetfuel inferno, merely because they were in a half hour early for work? you would not go there. It is another "dumb americans" joke here right? Well let me say something I may ask dumb noob questions here on TA sometimes, I always try to figure stuff out on my own first and I have a fucking brain, though years of drinking has eroded it somewhat without question, but never would I think ground zero was fair ground for slagging by you lot whether or not you are annoyed by the war on terror BS continuing today, this could have just as randomly been 27 of your best mates going down with the 343. Although you might have been out clubbing the night before, so you perhaps were late to work. Lucky day to be late let me tell you. I was supposed to be up there directly at 9 am myself but was 15 minutes late and saw the impact from the subway riding over the east river. No Clubs exist at ground zero save for the unrested souls you taunt carelessly (a note b4 continuing) "i'm sure I speak for everyone" Inferring every UKTA except original poster i guess.... regardless of this all encompassing popular opinion I direct this at everyone included with that....some unjustly maybe, please excuse if thats the case for you. Even as an American, I am first to say we need some 1) education...yes stupid is as stupid does...and we do it i know, alot.... and for the very clueless, a dollar to buy a clue, and 2) serious change, but there is so little one or even a party encompassing millions can influence, we control so very little if anything. A small circle of washingtons invisible power players, led by Dick Cheney, is in complete control. And they are not even in Washington most of the time so as to not present an assinnation op, how often is he present on TV ....rarely- perhaps during the yearly addresses, thats all. Not because he is second in command, it is because he is secretly and dangerously in control of command without any recourse. But he is no different that any dictator from europe (no none in england i know) Anyway I sure hope you dont speak for everyone (as you said) regarding ground zero. If you never let me post here again fine with me it was worth it to at least try and let you, and/or whoever/everyone you spoke for see just how wrong wrong wrong it is to be flippant to us (or anyone else!) on this, ************ any other thing you or I said here that one is just fucking out of line on TA, in Buckingham Palace, in your cousins house in Australia, Europe, or anywhere else really outside an Al Queda jhiihad. You would all be well overrun/ out thought if all us Americans threw away our TV's and did something else for 10 years...but this is sheerly my personal unproven opinion thus keep it separate from the rest of the diatribe. niteshayde props to you for being civil politicsofdancin girl i'll get you in the nyta board for yer props all good sister!!! Thanks for being the best to our cockney steven ok i'm done (yeah i hear you sayin good riddance too) Cheers all dont mean to toe step and I expect theres two possibilites, no one will post after me as you lot love to ignore my posts and let the thread die rather than validate my comment, or a flurry of "feckoffs dumb yank." either way, i stand by my man and my city and if you want i'll even stand by ground zero in this frigid cold so i can post pics , ie boilerplate TA ...pics or STFU. Never meant for this to be so long but every post has its day, and this ones day is here. Bring it on if you remotely care at all i do still luv y'all even tu_face but i dont always feel the PLUR in the room comin

jane...i love a woman that speaks her mind out...cheers dAhl! yeah sometimes these lil piglets should just shut their mouths sometimes....thank you for defending and explaining to them about ground zero...that was harsh, and it really sadenes me whenever someone mocks or makes fun of it in that matter. its no joke people....


big up jane!!

indy

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Originally posted by janieliza Am risking the wrath of tu face...but have to say Stop messin with my lad dammit!! Dont make me come over there to straighten you out It is unseemly and makes me ill to see this, geez why slag your own cause you hate us americans I was there in november and was glad to meet the london lot they were the best to me but I am appalled at this bs above, ban me if you like Lest you forget none of us would be here if it was not for NY clubbing, we gave you punk rock, we gave you the gay club culture that evolved into EDM NYC is not a joke so let it be and chil alreaddy with the ameri-bashing "humor"...hey it's not the first or the last one I know but do you think theres a valid motive to be judgemental a simple enquiry one comparison FYI England and surrounding environs of countries/ European culture began centuries ago lets use 1000 AD as a starting point though it was much earlier.= 1004 years USA/(Your New World btw) founded 1700 = 304 years ok so thats like me at 30 years old beating up a 10 year old kid because he cant read Ulysees of course we will make mistakes growing up or not knowing all we should OUR govt is appaling as well of course, we got screwed as we DID elect Al Gore for our President, but an antiquated electoral system and incompetence was the order of the day so we ended up with Bush We the people, do not represent our foreign policy or for that matter teen pop culture (remember the kids here cant drink till there 21 so they have to entertain themselves in some way) ie, B. Spears, 50 cent, p. diddy, J. Timberlake, J. Simpson, C. Agueilera, etc. All only millionaires due to rich white american youth, including the gangsta rappers who do not sell in the black community as most would beleive they do. Original poster is my mate and I know you couldnt give a fuck what some lame american posts here in your forum but regardless of that, Again I say quit it already and dont english mums say, like ours, "if you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything at all" or perhaps i am missing a long tradition something as our lot always does. Cant fathom what that may be though. drop the attitude there just because he's new how will that help us nurture a beneficial community for all. I am older than any of you, Yet still am treated as newbie, so I know my attempt here means zilch, I got the hint to go away but some things cant be left alone on sheer principle. If you never come to NYC that is OK, attitude influences our entire existence so you will assure youreslf you will not miss anything, but others might have the night of their dreams here in New York city. Who can say it is all subjective. Pure ignorance or must be required to actually say to someone go check out a club closeby ground zero. Am I the only one who sees the depravity of this as a joke? If you saw the workers jumping from 100 odd floors to escape the jetfuel inferno, merely because they were in a half hour early for work? you would not go there. It is another "dumb americans" joke here right? Well let me say something I may ask dumb noob questions here on TA sometimes, I always try to figure stuff out on my own first and I have a fucking brain, though years of drinking has eroded it somewhat without question, but never would I think ground zero was fair ground for slagging by you lot whether or not you are annoyed by the war on terror BS continuing today, this could have just as randomly been 27 of your best mates going down with the 343. Although you might have been out clubbing the night before, so you perhaps were late to work. Lucky day to be late let me tell you. I was supposed to be up there directly at 9 am myself but was 15 minutes late and saw the impact from the subway riding over the east river. No Clubs exist at ground zero save for the unrested souls you taunt carelessly (a note b4 continuing) "i'm sure I speak for everyone" Inferring every UKTA except original poster i guess.... regardless of this all encompassing popular opinion I direct this at everyone included with that....some unjustly maybe, please excuse if thats the case for you. Even as an American, I am first to say we need some 1) education...yes stupid is as stupid does...and we do it i know, alot.... and for the very clueless, a dollar to buy a clue, and 2) serious change, but there is so little one or even a party encompassing millions can influence, we control so very little if anything. A small circle of washingtons invisible power players, led by Dick Cheney, is in complete control. And they are not even in Washington most of the time so as to not present an assinnation op, how often is he present on TV ....rarely- perhaps during the yearly addresses, thats all. Not because he is second in command, it is because he is secretly and dangerously in control of command without any recourse. But he is no different that any dictator from europe (no none in england i know) Anyway I sure hope you dont speak for everyone (as you said) regarding ground zero. If you never let me post here again fine with me it was worth it to at least try and let you, and/or whoever/everyone you spoke for see just how wrong wrong wrong it is to be flippant to us (or anyone else!) on this, ************ any other thing you or I said here that one is just fucking out of line on TA, in Buckingham Palace, in your cousins house in Australia, Europe, or anywhere else really outside an Al Queda jhiihad. You would all be well overrun/ out thought if all us Americans threw away our TV's and did something else for 10 years...but this is sheerly my personal unproven opinion thus keep it separate from the rest of the diatribe. niteshayde props to you for being civil politicsofdancin girl i'll get you in the nyta board for yer props all good sister!!! Thanks for being the best to our cockney steven ok i'm done (yeah i hear you sayin good riddance too) Cheers all dont mean to toe step and I expect theres two possibilites, no one will post after me as you lot love to ignore my posts and let the thread die rather than validate my comment, or a flurry of "feckoffs dumb yank." either way, i stand by my man and my city and if you want i'll even stand by ground zero in this frigid cold so i can post pics , ie boilerplate TA ...pics or STFU. Never meant for this to be so long but every post has its day, and this ones day is here. Bring it on if you remotely care at all i do still luv y'all even tu_face but i dont always feel the PLUR in the room comin

oooh get a fucking life...


get off your fucking high horse, since when the fuck was this about you dumb yanks anyway, it was a fucking stupid question to ask in a uk forum, how many of us frequent clubs in new york? ioh wait, none of us....

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Originally posted by janieliza I have a fucking brain, though years of drinking has eroded it somewhat

you're telling me, and with it all sense of proportion

janieliza: my post had nothing to do with hating americans (you guys always seem to get the wrong end of the wrong stick), so please, read my post again. i was in fact taking the piss out of him for posting this in the UK forum when its obvious that 0.1% of us here have actually ever been to New York, let alone know the local club scene.. If you cant understand my sarcasm then please don't try

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