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Originally posted by DaveSaenz Heh, you must be way to the left. :P Are there any US leaders you'd consider middle of the road for your taste? I agree with some of Noam's points, but if he's saying Ted Kennedy = George W. Bush, the math just doesn't add up there. Dennis Kucinich = Ronald Reagan Err divide by zero Does anyone else see how the Republicans are able to campaign as moderates and govern as extremists? Damn they're good at doing that.

Well Im left I guess, especially from an American viewpoint, but Im not extreme left/communist (the c-word! RUN!) or something. I've always seen this forum as predominantly right-wing. Maybe you don't, maybe Im wrong. So be it. It doesn't change much.

Anyhow, I, personally, don't know of any American president that I would call middle of the road (would not call JFK this for example). Democratic candidate Howard Dean seems middle of the road, Ralph Nader was at least middle. This is the impression I have got, of course Im not 100% on the American history. If you think Im wrong, please give me some examples.

Chomsky called them to terrorists for their actions in places like Nicaragua and Turkey and the local parties they tend to support in 3rd world countries as long as they bend over. And that goes for democrats too by the way.

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In fact, the US is alone in having been condemned by the World Court for what amounts to international terrorism, in its attack against Nicaragua. The Court ordered the Reagan administration -- those now in power again in Washington -- to terminate its terrorist war against Nicaragua. Of course the administration disregarded the Court order, at once escalating the terrorist war, and vetoing Security Council resolutions supporting the Court judgment. The US is not alone in these practices, by any means. Rather generally, such practices run roughly in parallel with the power to commit the crimes. Again, that is familiar to the victims over the centuries, or at least should be.