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CynepMeH
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Miles away from ordinary...
Re: HI ... I'm Digital Aura...and I suck at drums.

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Originally posted by Digital Aura
yeah...I was gonna ask why you would do that...its so versatile it would have been the LAST thing I sold off.

I won't bother askin how much you sold it for, as that would bring back a flood of pain to you.

Sorry , bro!


Actually - I didn't loose on selling it. I sold the 61-key version with CDR for $2200, - what I paid. I do have the expansion cards still sitting, waiting for a 76-key recipient

hopefully, I'll have some cash sometime soon to buy it again, I do miss it. BTW, ever heard the "midnight sun" demo on triton studio??? WOW!


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Sloouh
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: South-West, England

I recently took a break from production, but now I've returned and I'm all the better for it. I'm begining to create quite nice stuff now, full of little faults but I learn from it all. Something sounds bad to me, I'll rectify it then or make it right in the next peice I make.

I also found it useful to learn music theoryand the theory of my software then invested in a quite cheap controller keyboard to let me play about more.

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trancenrg69
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Registered: Mar 2003
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Ok well I'm no Armin, but I'll tell you my story and maybe you can learn something from it. Trance music has been a passion of mine since I first discovered it back in 96. Up until last year I never really thought about producing. I just loved listening to great tunes. I was in university, working weekends, girlfriend, and I had a second passion which was bodybuilding, and I was very focused on that. Then one day while browsing the user forums I came across this production forum and I was amazed at how many people were producing trance with just computers and software. so i decided to try out fruityloops and I found it really fun, even though I had no idea what I was doing, it was very enjoyable. For the first 2 months, I would use it on and off, whenever I had time. Then one day I came up with a track (that sucks ass by the way, when I hear it now), that i thought was awesome! I was so proud that I started using fruity more and more. Around this time I was approached by a bodybuilder in my gym who had done the Canadian nationals. He brought me in his office and told me he thought that i had a great body and I got a great shot at competition, and he would train me free of charge. I told him I'd think about it, then during the next month I really hit fruity hardcore, broke up with my gf because of it, quit my weekend job, and I just graduated from university and didnt even go to my graduation ceremony. Trance production had taken over me, and I started to neglect my gym training and I told the guy who wanted to train me that I wasn't gonna do it. My friends thought I was crazy, turning down an opportunity like that, but I told them. I'm gonna make trance and make it big. Then around 6 months had passed , one night I came up with a track, I knew right away I had something good. One dj from miami told me it was awesome and I should sent it to ATS records (a record label with artists like Mat Silver who I look up too). I sent a sample and the next day got a reply, " like your melody !!! it is a very good one !!! no joke…Where do you come from, mate ?And what are your thoughts about it ?A remix ? a release on a label". I started screaming and running around the house I emailed him back and for 3 week I didn't get a reply, and pretty much thought it was 2 good 2 be true. Then I got the big email, "It is not Christmas and it is not your birthday…. BUT !!! We want to release your track on ABOVE THE SKY RECORDS / UK next year !!!Now you can smile or do what ever you want to do J.It is not very often that we decided to push a rookie !!!"
This email really floored me, and I couldn't believe it. Ok I still havent completed the song because I'm setting up my new studio very soon, as I work on a 866mhz piece of crap. But I've gotten a recent email and they haven't forgotten me, they are being very patient with me.
Ok, too me my productions still suck, and I have a long way to go. It's been less than a year since I picked up fruity. But The point of this story is this . Whatever I did in life, whether it be getting a university degree, competitive bodybuilding , or trance production, I did with passion. When you have passion for something you will dedicate yourself to it, you will give 100%, and you will keep trying and pushing yourself until you get it right. I used the same concepts in bodybuilding, in school, i Do with producing. Whether spending late nights in the library studying for midterms, or eat 6 meals a day, training 2 hours 7 times a week and running 1 hour in the cold at 5am in the morning, and drinking a diet coke while watching my friend drinking beer and eating mcdonalds at 3am in the morning. All these things add up to success. I take the same approach to everything I do in life. My passion in life comes from my Lord Jesus Christ. He gives me the strength, everything I do is for His glory. I hope this helps you to realize your dreams. God Bless

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reverieX2
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
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I also found it useful to learn music theoryand the theory of my software then invested in a quite cheap controller keyboard to let me play about more.


I just started producing its good to know sucking is normal..lol
i was lookin around at diffrent bio's of other producers and most of them have some sort of theory background wether its piano lessons or school... i just finished 5 years of high school music so i'm prolly gonna take piano to learn more about chords and stuff...


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reverieX2
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto

Oh! i almost forgot i have the same problem with rembering good idea's for songs... i carry my cell on me it small and convenient and i can record it for later


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CynepMeH
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Miles away from ordinary...

Hm.. how about capturing your music ideas in your sleep? I had the most amazing tune in my head in my dream. It would have been probably the most amazing tune if I could somehow capture it and then produce it - it was just fucking sick... when I woke up all I could remember how great it was but couldn't remember the melody...

Can't wait for the computers to advance enough to hook up to your brain so you could capure your musical ideas as easy as speaking.

I bet whoever comes up with this idea will get a Nobel prize.


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DinaireFan1
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: NY, Paris

Amen, bro

i.e. disciplined repetition of positive actions over extended periods of time.

And - lose the perfectionism. Just get it done. Check out "The Artist's Way"

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TI2ance
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Melbourne

Some excellent posts here, must admit this is a quality thread!

I've been playing the guitar for over 8 years and became pretty darn good at it. I still have so much to learn. (I've stopped playing guitar now as my focus has moved to trance..) For 4 years I sucked hard at the guitar. My parents wouldnt let me quit. They knew that once I started belting out the real shit I would enjoy the guitar for myself. This was so true!
The point of this all is- Music doesnt happen overnight, but it does happen if you are dedicated, like trancenrg69 suggested. I neglected music theory as alot of guitartists do. Now I'm learning it all over again and i'm not enjoying it, but I know once I can play the keyboard- patterns will emerge and everything will come together.

Alot of beginners jump at this all too fast, realise its bloody hard to do something decent in a short time and quit.

Take a step back and decide if you are willing to dedicate many years of your life to this with the beginning years being the hardest and at times borning and fruitless. 4 years of the guitar for me was shit. The next 4 years after gave me so many rewarding experiences. It was well worth the investment.

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CynepMeH
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Miles away from ordinary...

quote:
Originally posted by DinaireFan1
Amen, bro

i.e. disciplined repetition of positive actions over extended periods of time.

And - lose the perfectionism. Just get it done. Check out "The Artist's Way"


So much for "instant gratification" and "positive reinforcement", eh? Oh well, perfection takes ages, some never acheive it, some get it right in a short period of time.

Don't cringe when you read the following. Few days I was sitting around and thinking about the whole composing thing and the "rule of accelerating returns" (for more info on this read Ray Kurtzweil's "The age of spiritual machines" - best comp sci book of all times). First, the ideas for music come to some of you naturally; others have to find inspiration or maybe even mimick someone else - then you wonder off on a tangent and get your style. Well, if you look at music as soundwaves and ideas for music as the same cyclic patterns, you'd realize that ideas are circling around in your mind constantly. You just have to have your internal "receiver" and "recorder" on at the same time. Once you learn how to "ride" these waves of creativity, you begin to develop your style and ideas are a lot easier to spot in endless waves of rubbish. Moby had over 640 songs on his hard drive when he created his album "18" - not that I liked the album too much, but it had given me the idea that some songs are meant to be classics, some need some polishing and some are just throw-aways. Like diamonds, not every single one is perfect and some end up as chips for encrustment for others. So, wrapping up my philosophical rambling, I'd like to say that only when you begin to realize your potential, is when you trully appreciate all the things that you've done and that happened to you. As far as accelerating returns go - after you cross the threshhold and get the idea right, the next one will be easier, the one after is easier still, and then it will flow like water.

Computer is a tool - learn it like you'd learn how to walk. Once you can use it like your hand and your eyes and your brain, the rest is just a technicality. I'm not giving up on music - I've got some great inspiration here and I am pushing ahead. Even if it takes me a lifetime, I will continue to do what I do - that's the only way. Who knows, maybe one day you'll be saying "hey, isn't that the guy who almost gave up?"

Keep the thoughts comming, it's definitely interesting of how other TAs are making headway in this demanding choice of hobby.


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