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Originally posted by occrider In all fairness

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Actually not strengthen it's due to expire soon and he called for congress to renew it ... disagree

Yeah, I should've re-worded my statement but the concept of that particular legislation being passed again sends chills down my spine.

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Nope, he just talked about judges redefining marriage ... partially agree/disagree see gay marriage thread.

In this issue, I wasn't refering to the SOTU address. Supposedly, Bush used an exexcuetive order to put Judge Pickering (a rather over-religous fellow) on an appeals court I believe. I think that theres 3 or 4 (not totatlly sure) judges that are on the Democratic "hit list". Lets also be realistic that a Democratic fillabuster is not going to last forever against those judges, although the Miguel Estrada situation brings optimism.

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Wasn't in his speech.

Again, I realize this wasn't in the SOTU address but I was merely using it as example(s) of legislation that I was furious about.

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Just go to Canada instead. Seems like a better choice if you don't mind the cold

After sleeping on it, I've come to my senses and brought myself to the realization that I too would be digressing if I left the country; it's not good to run away from problems anyway, besides it would be a chicken-shit thing to do.

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Originally posted by PHALPAX After sleeping on it, I've come to my senses and brought myself to the realization that I too would be digressing if I left the country; it's not good to run away from problems anyway, besides it would be a chicken-shit thing to do.

It's exactly what our country doesn't need. If you lost faith in our country, make your voice count. It is your obligation and your given right to make a difference. And if that doesn't satisfy you, run for a public office. Take the initiatives and do the right thing for your country.

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I don't think I've ever seen such a vocal protest of a president in office. I can't fathom how bush has any kind of popularity. I hope he gets slaughtered in the election.

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Originally posted by PHALPAX In this issue, I wasn't refering to the SOTU address. Supposedly, Bush used an exexcuetive order to put Judge Pickering (a rather over-religous fellow) on an appeals court I believe. I think that theres 3 or 4 (not totatlly sure) judges that are on the Democratic "hit list". Lets also be realistic that a Democratic fillabuster is not going to last forever against those judges, although the Miguel Estrada situation brings optimism.

Actually I thought the pickering objection was overly politicized. The man's no racist and even the democrats who've blocked his appointment have said as much themselves. He prosecuted the KKK in in the 60s, sent his kids to newly integrated schools, and most of the opposition seems to stem from a case where he reduced the sentence of a cross-burning crime. He's even backed by some local civil-rights leaders in Mississippi such as Charles Evers. Anyway, what Bush did is nothing new. Clinton did it in 2000, John F Kennedy did it to recess commission 22% of his judges, Truman used it, Teddy Roosevelt used it, etc., etc., etc., all the way back to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

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Originally posted by failsafe I don't think I've ever seen such a vocal protest of a president in office. I can't fathom how bush has any kind of popularity. I hope he gets slaughtered in the election.

Well these forums aren't exactly the most accurate representations of society as a whole

Yeah...let me help bend it back the other way a little bit.

Yay for Bush!

Did that help?

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Originally posted by PHALPAX After sleeping on it, I've come to my senses and brought myself to the realization that I too would be digressing if I left the country; it's not good to run away from problems anyway, besides it would be a chicken-shit thing to do.

I was stopped at a light earlier today, and there was a homeless Vietnam veteran standing on the street corner. I didn't have any money on me, or even some food to give him. I felt so bad that a man who had served his country in an unjust, unwinable war was forced to strip himself of all dignity and stand there with a sign while others pretended not to notice him. I'll be honest it really broke my heart.

It kind of puts things into perspective about what's really important in life. I think if you were to turn your back on your country when it needed you, that would make you the worst kind of traitorous coward. I might not be able to help by joining the army, but I can still help by doing volunteer work in the community and also helping to elect leaders who will fight for me, you, that veteran standing on the corner, and all Americans. I'm actually glad in a small way that Bush was elected, because my outrage has also become an inspiration that has helped mold the direction of my life.

I am an American, I'll always be an American, and I’m damn proud of it.

We're going to have an America we can be proud of again, but we all can't just sit on our asses and expect for that to happen.

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz I was stopped at a light earlier today, and there was a homeless Vietnam veteran standing on the street corner. I didn't have any money on me, or even some food to give him. I felt so bad that a man who had served his country in an unjust, unwinable war was forced to strip himself of all dignity and stand there with a sign while others pretended not to notice him. I'll be honest it really broke my heart. It kind of puts things into perspective about what's really important in life. I think if you were to turn your back on your country when it needed you, that would make you the worst kind of traitorous coward. I might not be able to help by joining the army, but I can still help by doing volunteer work in the community and also helping to elect leaders who will fight for me, you, that veteran standing on the corner, and all Americans. I'm actually glad in a small way that Bush was elected, because my outrage has also become an inspiration that has helped mold the direction of my life.

Heh half of the homeless who claim to be vets are utter bullshit. They just grab army surplus jackets from the salvation army or other such organizations. If you think about it though, most of them are either too old or too young to be vets.

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz I was stopped at a light earlier today, and there was a homeless Vietnam veteran standing on the street corner. I didn't have any money on me, or even some food to give him. I felt so bad that a man who had served his country in an unjust, unwinable war was forced to strip himself of all dignity and stand there with a sign while others pretended not to notice him. I'll be honest it really broke my heart.

So do you think he was homeless because he fought in the Vietnam War(assuming he really was a Vietnam vet?)

Sorry to intrude but....







Now carry on......

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Originally posted by biodigit Sorry to intrude but.... Now carry on......

That made me chuckle

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Originally posted by biodigit Sorry to intrude but.... Now carry on......

Laughter is the elixir of the soul.

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Originally posted by Shakka So do you think he was homeless because he fought in the Vietnam War(assuming he really was a Vietnam vet?)

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Hehe, kick em out.

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