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Trancendent
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Perth, Australia
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Now for something different!

This might be somewhat out of the blue and to an extend unbelievable to the philisophically and politically illiterate, but never the less I'll say it anyway.
And by Politically I don't mean the kinda politics you know about when your watching TV with your beer in your hand!!!!

Dispite what anyone might belive the government is directly responsible for drug traficking. Specially in this age. Capitalism as we speak is at it's darkest hour. World Economy is in a slump and life as we know it is becomming harder and harder for the working class. The media delibratly and quite consciously was designed for brainwashing and distracting people from their REAL problems. But that's just one things. They have taken into account and used absolutly everything they can including drugs to stop people from realising their steadily worsenning conditions. Imagine how easier life was for our parents when they where growing up. Sure they had their own problems but financially we are much wors off and our children are gonna be worst off still and even more druged up than our generation. I will also mention that I myself use drugs but I have my own reasons for that.
But for now this issue should be taken into serious consideration.

criticisms to this post are welcome pplz.


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Spad
wise sage of the forest



Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Chesterfield ,UK

quote:
Originally posted by Trancendent
Dispite what anyone might belive the government is directly responsible for drug traficking. Specially in this age. Capitalism as we speak is at it's darkest hour. World Economy is in a slump and life as we know it is becomming harder and harder for the working class. The media delibratly and quite consciously was designed for brainwashing and distracting people from their REAL problems. But that's just one things. They have taken into account and used absolutly everything they can including drugs to stop people from realising their steadily worsenning conditions. Imagine how easier life was for our parents when they where growing up. Sure they had their own problems but financially we are much wors off and our children are gonna be worst off still and even more druged up than our generation. I will also mention that I myself use drugs but I have my own reasons for that.
But for now this issue should be taken into serious consideration.

criticisms to this post are welcome pplz.


If you had any evidence, reasoning or even hearsay to back this up I'd listen, but it sounds no different from any conspiricy theory to me.

I don't think for a second the majority of drug users are so wrapped up in taking drugs they fail to notice other world issues. So if that was the plan it didn't work.

I'm willing to entertain the notion that government would consider legalisation of certain drugs for the purpose of increased tax income (though I don't think the income would be that great anyway, but that's a different matter); but that government are activly involved in trafficking I find difficult to believe. But please feel free to enlighten me.

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j_spot
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Calgary

quote:
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but that government are activly involved in trafficking I find difficult to believe. But please feel free to enlighten me.


Spad..I didnt read his post until after I read yours. You are misquoting him. He didnt say they are involved in trafficking, but that the Government is directly responsible.
There is a difference(shit..im analyzing sentace structure and word meanings...yup, im ready to go back to college!) So Ill believe both of you. I dont think they are actively involved, but they are responsible. (ie for creating social situations where people would want to take drugs as an out etc)

Other than that...his rant seems alot like a flimsy conspiracy theory =)


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Spad
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It was more lines like

"They have taken into account and used absolutly everything they can including drugs to stop people from realising their steadily worsenning conditions."

but apologies if I've misunderstood.

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j_spot
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Calgary

WTF..Did he edit his post? I COULD HAVE SWORN it said something about the government being responsible..now that line is gone..my appology Spad!


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KaNoS
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: México
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History is repeting itself, when rock and roll came up, it attracted a lot of people, and the media started to look why was all the people attracted to it? and they came up that it must have been the drugs. Punk came out, attracted a lot of people, why? must be the drugs. Disco came out, attracted a lot of people, why? must be the drugs. Grunge came out, attracted a lot of people, why? must be the drugs.
Electronica came out, attracted a lot of people, why? must be the drugs.

They couldnt imagine, that people just might like the music and vibe. After all, more than half of the people, dont do drugs.

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hypronix
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Registered: May 2001
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I'll speak both here and in the poll section (anybody have a problem?)
It's about the way some "raverrz" act. Violence should not be a way to enertain Urself..although many believe so. And ppl gen. judge a whole bunch by only two items (it's somethin' about Freud's psychoilogy..see ya in the boks thread!)
So police is gettin' ready to beat up the whole crowd, not those two fuks that start the fight.
So at first maybe we should try and chang a lil..just a lil..


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beroshima
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Chicago, USA

What raves have you been to? I must have been to a dozen in my life (I mainly do clubs now) and there wan't one fight at any of the raves..

Compare it to most bars where there is at least one fight a night because of that great *cough* *cough* legal drug called alcohol...

quote:
Originally posted by hypronix
I'll speak both here and in the poll section (anybody have a problem?)
It's about the way some "raverrz" act. Violence should not be a way to enertain Urself..although many believe so. And ppl gen. judge a whole bunch by only two items (it's somethin' about Freud's psychoilogy..see ya in the boks thread!)
So police is gettin' ready to beat up the whole crowd, not those two fuks that start the fight.
So at first maybe we should try and chang a lil..just a lil..


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Trancendent
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Perth, Australia
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I agree with both "hypronix" and "Beroshima". I've been to alotta raves and have only encountered violance a couple of times and not surprisingly it was because of a couple of Bar Flies and not actual ravers. I've never known any ravers to be even remotly violant. And I also do agree that violance should be discureged. first of all it doesn't fix anything and second of all it's nothing but a sign of low intelect.


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Spad
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Chesterfield ,UK

The thing is, young people have been taking drugs since the dawn of time. If everybody stopped going cubbing and started hanging out on bouncy castles instead, they'd take their drugs there. If they started hanging out in huge empty fields, they'd take drugs there.

And then the media would blame the new "empty field" scene for corrupting the kids.

How about this for a reason people do drugs: they like it.

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