No problem man, I'm just glad that I don't have to live in those places, its f-ing crazy. You could be alive today and dead tonight literally with the nonstop violence. Puzzling to me why Russia wants to hold onto Chechnya that badly. I understand the spillover effect of if you let go of Chechnya more conflict provinces might flare up, seeing 19 year olds getting knifed in the neck though makes you wonder at what price. Love that Muslim music that the Chechens usually play in the videos, wonder what its called, anyone who knows let me know.

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i just ate so i will skip the video

Chechyn rebels need proof of there battles to receive their bounty, so there is alot of footage in that area

You'll also find that the Russian army straps groups of people together and detonates them, this makes the body count appear alot lower thus making it harder to identify the true amount of people in a mass grave. You'll find dogs wondering around towns with severed human limbs in their mouths etc

It's a shame we don't talk about other world conflict areas more :/

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan Puzzling to me why Russia wants to hold onto Chechnya that badly. I understand the spillover effect of if you let go of Chechnya more conflict provinces might flare up...

That and this

Oil Export Routes and Options in the Caspian Sea Region

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Name: Baku-Novorossiisk Pipeline (Northern Route)
Route: Baku via Chechnya (Russia) to Novorossiisk (Russia), terminating at Novorossiisk Black Sea oil terminal
Crude capacity: 100,000 bbl/d capacity; possible upgrade to 300,000 bbl/d
Lenght: 868 miles; 90 miles are in Chechnya
Estimated cost: $600 million to upgrade to 300,000 bbl/d
Status: Exports began late 1997; exports in 2001 averaged 50,000 bbl/d.
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http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj091701.html

"The Soviets had massively built up their military in the 1980's, including the world's largest nuclear submarine fleet, gambling on the huge profits to be made by selling their Chechen oil on the open market. When the Afghans under bin Laden, backed by the U.S. CIA stopped the construction of the Soviet-Afghan pipeline, the Soviet Union went through an economic collapse and ceased to exist in 1991.

The vast Chechen oilfield still remains fallow and untapped. As identified in "Black Gold Hot Gold," the Empire of Energy is now making a new attempt to market the Chechen oil by carpet bombing Afghanistan and building the Afghan pipeline."

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Originally posted by borron That and this Oil Export Routes and Options in the Caspian Sea Region ... Name: Baku-Novorossiisk Pipeline (Northern Route) Route: Baku via Chechnya (Russia) to Novorossiisk (Russia), terminating at Novorossiisk Black Sea oil terminal Crude capacity: 100,000 bbl/d capacity; possible upgrade to 300,000 bbl/d Lenght: 868 miles; 90 miles are in Chechnya Estimated cost: $600 million to upgrade to 300,000 bbl/d Status: Exports began late 1997; exports in 2001 averaged 50,000 bbl/d. ... http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj091701.html "The Soviets had massively built up their military in the 1980's, including the world's largest nuclear submarine fleet, gambling on the huge profits to be made by selling their Chechen oil on the open market. When the Afghans under bin Laden, backed by the U.S. CIA stopped the construction of the Soviet-Afghan pipeline, the Soviet Union went through an economic collapse and ceased to exist in 1991. The vast Chechen oilfield still remains fallow and untapped. As identified in "Black Gold Hot Gold," the Empire of Energy is now making a new attempt to market the Chechen oil by carpet bombing Afghanistan and building the Afghan pipeline."

Interesting forgot all about the oil in Chechnya with all of the fighting and few solid building structures left in Grozny you kind of lose sight of the oil resource. Then yet again oil or no oil the Chechens and Russians would still be fighting because the Chechens have never felt loyal to Moscow.

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Originally posted by occrider War is indeed hell. http://home.columbus.rr.com/imagete...20Incident.mpeg I, for one, am all for the freedom of speech when it comes to images of war. As long as it's done tastefully, decently, and out of respect for the victims involved. I'm not opposed to the idea of war at times of necessity, but I think everybody should know what it entails.

I completely agree.

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