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Originally posted by T_2199 That argument is a bit stupid because he mixed so many sets without any re-edit of him (Paul_Van_Dyk-Live_at_Club_of_Colors_Hungary-11-08-1999 example).. And his mixing is great too in those sets.. And it´s not that much easier to mix because when he spins a 2 hour set they´re maybe 4-6 re-edits in it the others are just ordinary tracks.. And you´re saying PvD has no talent ?! Excuse me that made me laugh!

I'm not saying PvD doesn't have talent, but there are PLENTY of DJs out there with tons more talent than PvD who don't get recognized, or as much recognization as they should. People worship PvD all the time like he's the shit, yet he uses those re-edits in alot of his sets he does. Argue that he doesn't use re-edits in all of his sets and I'll come back at you with he spins alot of his tunes in his sets. They all use the same bassline which makes it very easy to beatmatch, there's no denying that.

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Man I seriously dont agree with big name DJs usin final scratch. They're meant to be everybodys mentors in the DJing world, yet they're killing the whole 'vinyl culture' by using fucken mp3s. Half the fun of DJing is searching for that one record which no one has, or some tune which has been around for years which everyone missed yet still sounds fresh.

Sorry PvD..you're a wanker!

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Originally posted by DeviantxPete Whoa....Zabiela's spastic hand movements kicked ass!

Yeah, you saw this [----] MUCH only. Go to Groovetech.com (if the site is still viable) and check out James Zabiela's sets...up close and personal. He does way more than scratching.

As for PvD, I am sure he's got a load off his shoulders for a while now. <---- how much does 20 Trance Vinyls weigh?

I'm sort of sitting on the fence here...

but I would be very sad if this EVER became the norm and vinyl went away

The physical 'record' is a cornerstone of the whole culture, throw that out and you lose some of the sanctity/allure that comes with being known as the DJ playing that rare track everyone wants.

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Originally posted by Pointy Man I seriously dont agree with big name DJs usin final scratch. They're meant to be everybodys mentors in the DJing world, yet they're killing the whole 'vinyl culture' by using fucken mp3s. Half the fun of DJing is searching for that one record which no one has, or some tune which has been around for years which everyone missed yet still sounds fresh. Sorry PvD..you're a wanker!

FFS people, start reading the articles properly!!!!

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He says he didn't like FinalScratch at first because it was designed mainly for mixing MP3's and other compressed audio files. "I'm a sound freak, "he admits - the quality wasn't high enough for him. So Van Dyk stores his tunes as uncompressed AIFF files instead, and for added refinement, he gives every track an extra smoothing for the dance floor. "Everything I play goes through the mastering setup of my studio," he explains,"so everything you hear sounds even better than the original record."

For everyone else considering to reply here I recommend you do some reading on www.finalscratch.com to get somewhat of a clue what this is about. PvD and countless other DJs are just making use of the newest advancements in technology, and in this case there should be no complaining whatsoever since there is no abandoning of the vinyl feel. As for finding that oh so elusive track (which hardly is an issue any longer since it's all about promos DJs get 4 months before everyone else anyway), it has to be released in some form in order to actually get the AIFF file on your Powerbook, so you still have to do the same old record hunting.

Also, until the cost of Final Scratch is lowered considerably along with the risk of the whole program crashing mid set, oldschool vinyl will still be around for quite a bit.

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Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 I'm not saying PvD doesn't have talent, but there are PLENTY of DJs out there with tons more talent than PvD who don't get recognized, or as much recognization as they should.

They are tons of unrecognized Djs out there some of them are as good as Paul (in mixing terms), agreed!!

But no other Dj I can think off has the same style like Paul (fast, pumpin EDM) and can interact with the crowd the way Paul can..

What I want to say is there are other great DJs out there who can also perfectly beatmatch and mix as good as PvD but they all have another trackselection..

So I don´t think Paul is the shit neither do I listen to him all day but his style is unique and he´s a damned good DJ..

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper FFS people, start reading the articles properly!!!! For everyone else considering to reply here I recommend you do some reading on www.finalscratch.com to get somewhat of a clue what this is about. PvD and countless other DJs are just making use of the newest advancements in technology, and in this case there should be no complaining whatsoever since there is no abandoning of the vinyl feel. As for finding that oh so elusive track (which hardly is an issue any longer since it's all about promos DJs get 4 months before everyone else anyway), it has to be released in some form in order to actually get the AIFF file on your Powerbook, so you still have to do the same old record hunting.

exactly...pvd isn't gonna play a stupid mp3 he got off the internet. what he does is he either has tunes on vinyl or cd and then turns them into AIFF files to use in final scracth...

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Originally posted by Pointy Man I seriously dont agree with big name DJs usin final scratch. They're meant to be everybodys mentors in the DJing world, yet they're killing the whole 'vinyl culture' by using fucken mp3s. Half the fun of DJing is searching for that one record which no one has, or some tune which has been around for years which everyone missed yet still sounds fresh. Sorry PvD..you're a wanker!

Believe me Djs who can afford Final Scratch have enough money for vinyls too..

And why he´s a wanker? Because you don´t like that he uses Final Sratch ??

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Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 Click to watch Those people don't look bored to me.

you have to admit, even if scratching isn't your thing that the kids got skills...

on a different note...


OMG!!!! what is the first tune sasha start's with??? is that the unknown tune by Timo and Petter???

Vinyl is NOT the cornerstone of this culture. Technology is. Electronically produced music needs to move on and away from early 20th century musical mediums. even the turntable is getting dated. just because a DJ would rather use a high quality AIFF or Mp3 file rather than a 12", doesnt make him or her any less of a performer. What i assume most people fear is that technology will make it too easy and thus the excitement of seeing your favorite dj live wouldnt be as good. That is bullshit
The whole point of going to a fucking party is to enjoy yourself, not stare at a person playing other people's music for 2 hours straight. IMO, the whole concept of big name DJ's is stupid, because anyone can learn to dj and get good at it, just like anyone can pick up a guitar and get good with practice or train their voice so that they can sing better. Paul has a particular talent in which he can become very empathetic with a crowd and knows which song will peak emotion. usually most big name dj's have that same talent at varying levels. so despite what way he uses to deliver music to a crowd, he'll still retain the ability to destroy a dancefloor.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper FFS people, start reading the articles properly!!!!

FFS mate, read my post again as you missed my point!!

I know exactly how final scratch works and yes, great idea!! But its gonna ruin the vinyl culture. Wow he uses AIFF, but you can also use the easily downloaded mp3. People are gonna start buying this after seeing all the big jocks use it and as if they're gonna turn their bought CDs into AIFF. They'll download mp3s n play them, destroying sales n never buying a vinyl again. I disagree with CDJs as much as i do Final Scratch - although i do enjoy the effects n things you can do with the CDJs. Personal opinion yes, I guess i just prefer the whole vinyl scene more.

And yes, PvD is still a wanker.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller OMG!!!! what is the first tune sasha start's with??? is that the unknown tune by Timo and Petter???

Nope. That tune started Zabiela and Sasha's back-to-back session that ended the night.

Sasha's opener is Life - Breaks And Banter (Fadas' Cheeky Re-Edit)

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