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Izzy
Virtue & Vice

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: TX TA #5
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| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I'm not deeply religious, and I work in a science field (biology/medicine), but I think I will always have a place for "God" in the creation of things as well as science. To me quantuum fluctuations are not a sufficient explanation of how things came into existance (what began these quantuum fluctuations?). I'm a temporal being, so to me there needs to be a "start." You can argue that time is just a function of tachyons or merely a dimensional measurement, and the universe has in fact been around forever, but again, I have difficulties with that. It seems to me just as much a cop-out as saying God made everything in a week. My personal belief is that he ("it") got things started, and let it go from there. Maybe an occassional nudge was given here and there, but maybe not. I could go on and on about this, but I'll leave it at that for now. |
sweet, yet one more deist... here i am never finding another one in real life but yet i find two on the same day here in th pol forum
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Feb-11-2004 01:52
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narcism
faithless fangirl

Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Let go of my mind
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It never fails to amaze me how many creationists say they reject the theory of evolution due to "lack of proof" - i.e. incomplete fossil record and so on. I'm not going to start on why this perspective is wrong (as it's already been done to death) but all I ask is that you take that that scepticism - that doubt - you so rigorously apply to the theory of evolution, and then apply it to your own beliefs. Apply it to your God.
You can't see him, you can't feel him, he does not interfere at all in every day life.... in fact, it's farily hard to think of anything he does do these days, isn't it? Now, apparently, the fact that paleantologists haven't found every single species of animal that ever existed is proof the evolution cannot have happened, but God - entirely intangible and unverifiable - must exist?
Think about it. If you deny the theory of evolution - which has stood up to the scrutiny of rigorous scientific examination for over 150 years (meaning it has fared better than most other scientific theories) then it would be logically inconsitent of you to continue with your belief in God.
Lots of (if incomplete) proof in favour of evolution, hardly anything that supports the existence of God, much less the theory of creationism.
If religion wishes to make ontological claims - about things that do and don't exist, about things that have and haven't happened - then it desverves to be held up to genuine logical and empirical tests and scrutinised thoroughly. If you wish to hold evolution to such a harsh form of scepticism, then the least you can do, if you wish to be acting in "good-faith", is to approach your own deep-rooted beliefs with the same logic.
Do you actually want to know, or are you happy believing?
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Feb-11-2004 12:19
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DrUg_Tit0
e^(i*pi)+1=0

Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
DrUg_Tit0,I can't vote because none of the answers fit my opinion. Evolution is real,I just don't agree with macro.
(It's NellIE There is a difference,and I never said the majority doesn't believe in Evolution. Atleast I don't recall it. If I did,point it out to me.) |
Well, I'm sorry if I hadn't made that more clear, but I was reffering to "macro"-evolution, since "micro"-evolution is obviously true, as it happens every day. So if it suits you, replace the word evolution with "macro"-evolution. There, happy?
Sorry about your name, although I don't see why people have to be so nitpicking about their nicks...
Now about the majority, yes, you're right. It was whether the majority thinks you made an immature and elementary breakdown of terms. I'll create a new poll on this one if it makes you happy 
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Feb-11-2004 12:40
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