One thing is for sure, trance musik and the whole rave culture does not need 'flashy advertisment' to help it out. we all discovered this musik one way or another, therefor it would be better just to leave it 'underground' and let only the choice intelligent listeners discover the musik as well. I personally say "fu*k the goverment, fu*k the media, and fu*k every wannabe who sterotypes the whole 'scene'" havok118 had the best idea of them all and I personally would help take over any 3rd world country and make it a party country. any ideas for a name let me know heh...

___________________
[U.S.A.T.A]

a party place like that already exists, iz called my room

___________________
I SUCK MONKEYS IN HELL

quote:

Originally posted by tu_face as i said... sheepism

Theres a lot of truth there. U know that one president of the U.S.(cant remember if it was nixon or bush) said he didnt like brocoly, and the sales of it, falled 40%?

Wait about 5-10 years, and we will see pop-djs saying that they play trace in the US.

that was not because of no president, that was because of the killer-brocoli episode from the power puff girls!!

___________________
I SUCK MONKEYS IN HELL

I think the problem has do alot with exposure. All the other points hold truth as well but, in europe these events are even broadcasted on television. Here, if u are not on a forum or keep up to date, u could easily miss the event. Perhaps more exposure would make it easier for these events to fill up.

what ever happened to that Raymond guy on MTV? During that Oakenfold special, didn't he say "watch out for MTV events like this in the summer" ??? i really thought he was gonna be a pionier (sp?) of trance to mainstream.

___________________
Thank You and Goodnight

quote:

Originally posted by havok118 Eh, America is a country for fools with the attention spans of retarded goldfish. Things get popular when they are already commercialized...because in this country, if people aren't bombarded with advertisements, they don't really care. The electronic music scene is not flashy enough(despite the numerous amounts of strobe lights ), and way too misunderstood for it to gain any kind of a foothold. Hence the only people that usually go out are the morons who feel like getting fucked up, and give the scene a bad rap. For instance, with hip hop. Hip Hop was HIP HOP about 10 years ago, I don't know what to call this gansta-white-boy peddled shit that is so popular today, but it doesn't deserve to be even in the same catagory as hip hop, hell it doesn't even deserve to be in the same catagory as SHIT. Yet, it's popular, why? Because it's commercial, it's no longer about art, it's about selling music. I for one would love the scene to stay underground. I don't want these fucking retarded ass kids coming to ruin something else that I love(although they aleady have). I just wish for a little more intelligence, and unity in the American scene. Something that could be respected for what it is, and not because it has mass commercial appeal. It's already happening, though, the commercialization. Companies capitalizing on "raver gear", and the far end of trashy trance compilations that deserve to be defectated upon... To sum it all up...American's (for the most part, like someone said, if you are reading this, you're okay in my book ) like being goldfish, and they love things for MASS audiences. Let's face it folks, American society would never allow for the kind of exposure we want...without distorting it to benefit someone else. And that, my friends, we do not want. Peace and Respect. P.S. I'm a very very bitter party-kid, excuse me if I offended you.

You pretty much summed it up. America is too caught up on Materialistic bullshit. They are afraid of music that actually involves intelligence to make it.

lol, i had a conversation in a PacSun store with one of the workers while I was shopping for clothes . They were playing rap (omg!! aaahhhhhh!!! ) and me and my friend were making fun of it the whole time..and the worker got mad and said 'i listen to music for the words, not the beat and stuff'...i just about rolled over from laughing my damn ass off, because she is to caught up in the media bull shit....lol!!!! damn, america is bein flushed in a toilet along with the shit the media has provided..

Yeap, it's all about the Herd instinct, and the fact that US is the country of superficiality. Pop, hip hop, way easier to "feed the brutes" with these things. It's true that about raves it's said they bring violence and ravers take drugs and shit (reply by QuickStep), but this isn't the main cause (well, it's been said 'bout rappers they induce violence; but I don't think Snoop is goin' to have so many concerts canceled or ppl will stop goin' b/c of that)
maybe...trance is harder to understand. And as (most) americans are superficial, they will not take the time to understand it.

___________________
Kultified TrancEr

Something similar happens here in Mexico there is just too much pop around same goes to hip/hop and stuff, nothing much to do here..'xcept to wait 'till the next underground party pops up or else the big parties at big cities where you spend lot$$$$.

___________________


So damn Happy!

I think the trance/electronica scene in America will get worse before it gets better. Rap/HipHop music continues to grow in popularity here. Its probably best this way too as Shockwav and Havok said. Americans have a way of taking good music and fubarng it up...