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Originally posted by Zombie0729 DJing is a hobby.... producing is a passion...

thanks Plato..

anyway, I don't know of any productions by judge jules, although there are a few mixes by him

i just got my table*s my real goal is just to have it as a hobby playing at trance energy is a dream dont think il never make it that far.

if you love it and thats what you want to do for the rest of your life then get contacts hard yea but just talk to everyone and recordstores clubs etc bouncers everyone be friendly make friends everywhere

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 DJing is a hobby.... producing is a passion...

I disagree, I think do be really good at either you have to be just as passionate for both. I mean, its not too hard to learn to beatmatch then start recreating Tiesto/Armin's sets by playing all the latest anthems with no real attempt at doing something unique. You can tell that the good DJ's out there have a real passion for it because they're pushing their own, unique sound, and doing more things besides just mixing the same old tracks.

Look at James Zabiela. He hasn't made many tracks at all (the only ones I know of are Zabilek Beats and a remix, both on his EM). What sets him apart is the crazy things he does during his DJ sets with those pioneers. Looping, adding samples and effects, scratching... he's pretty much single handedly made progressive interesting for me.

And look at someone like Donald Glaude. He scratches like crazy, and does it damn well. He is also a complete nut behind the decks, cutting the volume to yell at the crowd, jumping around, scratching with his nose.

My point is, its not so much an issue of getting your name out there, as much as it is an issue of setting your name apart from the rest. Look at your average ASOT playlist... have you heard of most of those artists, besides their name on their track? The only way your gonna get serious recognition by producing isn't just to make a track, or make a good track, but to make one that really blows people away, then keep doing it over and over until you're practically a household name.

I see that you're a trance DJ. I hate to stereotype but if you're just playing the same old tracks from ASOT, or Tiesto, or (insert well known trance producer/DJ here), you're gonna be fighting through the DJ glass celing like the rest of the wannabe trance superstars out there, who bring printouts of the latest PvD set along with them to the record store. Set yourself apart from the rest.

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Originally posted by deejay2002 just do it for fun...

Nah. If you want to do it, go for it. Throughout the history of man, no one ever did anything memorable without taking risks.

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Originally posted by caddyshack thanks Plato..

Haha, that made me laugh.

Good luck making it "big" without producing. There are so many wanna-be DJ's out there now that end up getting gigs solely through connections. If you don't have connections, you almost have to produce to get your name out. Otherwise you'll be stuck playing in some bar for 4 people during Wednesday night Nascar races.

just do it as a hobby, why does everyone want to make it so big and be famous.

just do it for the music.

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Originally posted by montie I'm a damn good DJ........ No "good" musician has ever said they were "good" so what you can beatmatch. its all about being able to move a crowd. to be a good DJ in the sense of being successful is to be able to bring in a shitload of people to a club and make sure they have a damn good time. yes there is a huge artistic side to it, which is the most self rewarding part of being a DJ (and producer) but if you want to pursue this as a career theres alot more of the whole business side shit you have to deal with. people aren't gonna want you unless you can make the club lots of money. and yes production is a very big tool in getting yourself well known. its the best way to get yourself international publicity. to "make it" in the sense that you can support yourself financially as a DJ requires lots and lots of hard work, persistence, putting up with crap you won't be able to stand and luck.

thats right, so what your a "good" dj you have to realise that their are heaps of djs who want to make it that are as good if not better than you

Production is necessary if you want to be big. Also, a year and a half isn't really a long time to be DJing. I've been DJing for over 2 years now and I still have a _long_ way to go. I'm only starting to get into the DJ 'business'. Give yourself time to develop, experiment with new techniques, and develop your own style. Very few people ever get to make a living off DJing. As so many others said, doing it for fame and fortune will get you NOWHERE because there is very little fame and fortune that goes with the DJ biz. Do it because you love it, stick with it because you love the music and you want a crowd to have a great time to your sound. It's all about the attitude

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its a great hobby, but realistically the chances of making a living of it aren't great...and its all about location and who you know, much more so than actual skill i think.

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Originally posted by nrjizer I disagree, I think do be really good at either you have to be just as passionate for both. I mean, its not too hard to learn to beatmatch then start recreating Tiesto/Armin's sets by playing all the latest anthems with no real attempt at doing something unique. You can tell that the good DJ's out there have a real passion for it because they're pushing their own, unique sound, and doing more things besides just mixing the same old tracks. Look at James Zabiela. He hasn't made many tracks at all (the only ones I know of are Zabilek Beats and a remix, both on his EM). What sets him apart is the crazy things he does during his DJ sets with those pioneers. Looping, adding samples and effects, scratching... he's pretty much single handedly made progressive interesting for me. And look at someone like Donald Glaude. He scratches like crazy, and does it damn well. He is also a complete nut behind the decks, cutting the volume to yell at the crowd, jumping around, scratching with his nose. My point is, its not so much an issue of getting your name out there, as much as it is an issue of setting your name apart from the rest. Look at your average ASOT playlist... have you heard of most of those artists, besides their name on their track? The only way your gonna get serious recognition by producing isn't just to make a track, or make a good track, but to make one that really blows people away, then keep doing it over and over until you're practically a household name. I see that you're a trance DJ. I hate to stereotype but if you're just playing the same old tracks from ASOT, or Tiesto, or (insert well known trance producer/DJ here), you're gonna be fighting through the DJ glass celing like the rest of the wannabe trance superstars out there, who bring printouts of the latest PvD set along with them to the record store. Set yourself apart from the rest.

it's very easy to sit back and logically come up with an answer like that... but the fact of the matter is, you really have no idea, nor do a lot of us.