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Some One
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

Just to clarify to people that dont know, The "peace process" was going on about 5 or so years already, if not more. The whole idea of this "peace process" is for the arabs to get more and MORE land from israel, as any if you can see has almost nothing left. Now The good thing about Sharone is that he can atleast retaliate after an attack, he is a strong leader, on the other hand, Ehud Barak was not strong, I once overheard a bunch of old people say that Arabs squeezed Barak like a lemon, they would sqeeze, and he would give in.

Anyways this whole situation there is crazy, the only way to stop it is to tell the crazy suicide bombers to stop what they are doing.

Old Post Aug-11-2001 05:07  Russia
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TimeWarp
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto

Im Iranian and might me biased to the Palestinians side.... I lived in the middle east for 11 years ( Kuwait ) and from what i saw during my life there, is that there is a dislikingness and mistrust among the two parties..
The fighting has reached to a point where there is no reason to kill except for revenge for their own "brothers" killing... Hatred and Revenge are not going to ever solve anything and I dont think UN peacekeepers would be able to do anything either... Its a known fact that military style warfare always loses to guerrilla type warfare, and because of this, neither the UN or the Israeli armed forces will be able to control the situation..

I personally think that the Palestinian and Israeli's will never be able to live together.. I mean.. how could u make peace with someone who killed one of ur family members ( comming from both point of views ) The only way to resolve this is to completely seperate the two by dividing the lands somehow..... how they do that is another question to be tackled... The Israel'is believe they were lead there by Moses and that it is their land, and the Arabs will say that they were there first....I dont konw how in Gods name they're going to arrange that...

All I want is to somehow seperate the two so there is no more killing... I dont really care if they co-exist in the same place because i personally dont think it would happen...
Somehow this has to be resolved... too many people dying in vain and for no reason has got to stop...


PEACE

Old Post Aug-11-2001 05:30  Iran
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Izzy
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quote:
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the only way to stop it is to tell the crazy suicide bombers to stop what they are doing.


you cant just "tell" them to stop, thats a silly thing to say... and i dont agree with you on the barak/sharon issue, you seem to the far right of me. Barak did his best in negotating for a peace deal, when it failed the ball rolled to Sharon because you were facing a more violent partner so you need a stronger leader. calling Barak "not strong" is a wussy thing to do, he was the most decirated (military medalions/patches/badges) prime minster in the history of the world. comprimising is not a weak aspect.


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Anyways this whole situation there is crazy, the only way to stop it is to tell the crazy suicide bombers to stop what they are doing.



the only way to stop it too is to tell sharon not to bomb the palestinian territories with his f-16 because according to him it's the anti-terrorism prevention politic . how do u want them not to take a revenge of all that ? and please even israelis and jewish ppl hate arabs and muslims and they want to destroy us all . why do the "SHAS" or i don't know how to write it want to destroy our holy mosque ? why ? and u say we arabs and muslims hate u ? i think it's the opposit ...


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Old Post Aug-11-2001 05:58  Morocco
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Dudes
i aint saying what side im on.
Here's my non-worthy opinion:
- An army of soldiers cant shoot an innocent child claming that he was threatning them by throwing stones! thats stupid and ironic
- 2 nations can't co-exist having 2 different believes that contradict eachother so badly .And as i read b4 u can't stop a brother from revenge to his brother.
- You can't hate arabs or jews all around the world just cause one freaked up son of a bitch blew up a hole place full of people.In that case u'd be seperating them from the rest of the world , so what they do? they will go there to live with people who can tolerate them.Thats how we get fucking racism anyway.
- Don't forget those nations are missled by leaders who has old mentalities of hate and dictatorship. If u put a 25 years old person to lead the country i think it would have been at least less DEADLY!
As those leaders has already got that HATE in them.
- If U put An arab and israeli in a trance club , I don't think they'd even think of killing eachother!Its fuckin trance man! Who gives a shit whats happening to the world!

PEACE!

Old Post Aug-11-2001 06:51  Netherlands
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Abbas
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Interesting views, I won't try to say im not bias, cause I'd just be lying....

but I hate what some people wrote on here....you fail to mention fanatics on both sides, you only mention those arab and islamic militants....these things exist on both sides.......look at the number of deaths...Palestinian dead far outnumber, don't say its accidents, about 45 children dead, died from being shot in the head....coincidence, and the majority of the rest in the abdomen which is known to be the worst way to die....there are militants cause there is no military.......Israeli's rreply with a simple rocket launch or attack with tanks....and what do the Palestinians have?! rocks and some M-16's....im not saying they should be fighting, but you cannot change human nature on this....

Jerusalem will never be split, I belive in what my religion says that when the Temple of Solomon is built in Jerusalem, that is one of the signs of Judgement day.........in other words this issue will never be resolved...

think about it!.....i killed your brother, you killed my uncle.....are we gonna live side by side?!?!....its just human nature, its not gonna happen!!!


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Some One
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Ok this goes out to both Izzy, the close Minded Morrocan and Zing

First off, Israel is in a need of a strong leader, and Barak is not the man to do it. Why did he "suddenly" resigned? huh?

Second off, Morocon you are an idiot, you think that all jews want is to kill all the arabs? you gotta be crazy. I am jewish, and do you know how many Arabic friends I have? most likely more then all the people you know all together. I dont know why, but i dont have any urge to KILL any of them....

the only way to stop it too is to tell sharon not to bomb the palestinian territories with his f-16 because according to him it's the anti-terrorism prevention politic

Ok what came first, the terrorists attacks on Israel or the Bombings? The terrorists attacks came first, and the F16's attacks follow as retaliation


and please even israelis and jewish ppl hate arabs and muslims and they want to destroy us all

yeah ok, if we wanted to destroy you all, we would do it soo fast, you wouldnt even notice the entire gaza strip disappear. besides, this must have been the most stupid phraze ever. I am jewish, and do you know how many Arabic friends I have? most likely more then all the people you know all together. I dont know why, but i dont have any urge to KILL any of them...

and u say we arabs and muslims hate u ? i think it's the opposit

They dont hate us, most of em atleast, its that small group of idiots who strap bombs to themselfs





An army of soldiers cant shoot an innocent child claming that he was threatning them by throwing stones! thats stupid and ironic

Ok, This really bugs me... but, lets say YOU would be one of those soldiers, and those same kids would be throwing rocks at you. What would you do,
A) Shoot them (hell if you dont, you're dead cuz those kids will really kill you)
B) Stand there and have 2-3lb rocks thrown at you (this hurts alot, might leave to brain damage if hit in the head)

Old Post Aug-11-2001 07:18  Russia
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TimeWarp
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quote:
Originally posted by Abbas
think about it!.....i killed your brother, you killed my uncle.....are we gonna live side by side?!?!....its just human nature, its not gonna happen!!!


I completely agree.... It will never happen... the hatred runs to deep to be resolved by a peace treaty..

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ZinG
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WhoEVer SomeOne is U better state ur opinion and please dont critisize others.
And remember you're killing a Child.
a CHILD

Peace!

Old Post Aug-11-2001 07:35  Netherlands
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Smiley DJ

Oh Yeah One more thing SomeOne:
I Believe a soldier do wear Helmet . DUH!
Not to mention bullet proof vests . DUH DUH!
How bad its gonna be.
Anyway Im outta this.


Peace!

Old Post Aug-11-2001 07:40  Netherlands
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KaNoS
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: México
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One thing about soldiers

you dont know how it feels to be attacked by a larger crow with stones, or bullets
you dont know the fear it comes when ur life is at risk, a 1k rock can hurt u even if u have a helmet and vest

so, unless u know how it feels, u dont know the response. Most people would shoot, just to scare the people, a child got hit? wtf was he doing there?

its easy to judge someone, when u are not in his position.

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Abbas
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maybe the child belongs there and the soldier doesn't


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