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Originally posted by Galapidate http://www.wnbc.com/entertainment/2881102/detail.html

Mel should give that guy a check for 42g.

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Originally posted by arctic A lot of prominent theologians down here were furious, as it apparently isn't very accurate at all, to say the least. From memory he changed the plot a bit to bring it into line with the 'visions' of some (18th century?) Catholic nun.

Actually the film is extremley accurate according to the Pope who i am sure knows alot more about the life of christ than you do. Of course you don't believe in christ so it dosent really matter right, its just another movie for you. They did alot of research to make the fil, it isnt just a hollywood flick. The plot does not suck either, (did some crackhead tell you this?). You have to see it.

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Originally posted by imokruok Oh well. His money. I think I might spend the $8.50 though. I grab a lot of movies off of the internet, but if I don't pay for this one, I'll feel guilty.

5.25$ with a student ID for the late show (saw it last night)

*edit* I just saw the comment about the plot in the post above mine... I almost died laughing when I found out it got a "B" rating on plot!

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Originally posted by albertoR Actually the film is extremley accurate according to the Pope who i am sure knows alot more about the life of christ than you do. Of course you don't believe in christ so it dosent really matter right, its just another movie for you. They did alot of research to make the fil, it isnt just a hollywood flick. The plot does not suck either, (did some crackhead tell you this?). You have to see it.

The Pope wouldn't know any more about the life of christ any anyone else who picks up a bible.

About it not just being a flick... anyone can turn a really profound or solemn event into a piece of shit: Peal Harbor (what a shitty movie).

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Originally posted by albertoR Actually the film is extremley accurate according to the Pope who i am sure knows alot more about the life of christ than you do.

Unsupported assertion. By the way, when did I claim that I was one of the prominent theologians down here that opposed it? I'd really like to see what gave you that impression.

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Of course you don't believe in christ so it dosent really matter right, its just another movie for you.

My current position could be likened to that of an agnostic. I'm not saying that Jesus did or did not exist, I think it isn't possible to verify. If you mean 'do I believe that Christ died and was resurrected' and so on, then no, I don't believe in Christ. And yes, it is just another movie, one that I'll probably choose not to watch. Firstly, there are much better movies out there (The life of Brian, for instance ), and secondly, Mel Gibson is a bigot, hence me refusing to let any of my money get into his greedy little hands.

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They did alot of research to make the fil, it isnt just a hollywood flick. The plot does not suck either, (did some crackhead tell you this?). You have to see it.

Read the article I posted. Further to that, the only reason a lot of Churches are supporting is this is because they see it as a conversion tool. "You've seen the movie, now read the book" kind of thing.
And yes, sorry to break it to you, but it is just another holywood flick. As for your claim that the plot doesn't suck, I disagree. It is of course entirely subjective, but I have read the book, and in my opinion, the plot does indeed suck.

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Originally posted by arctic I refuse to give any of my money to Mel Gibson, essentially because of his bigoted attitude towards Jews, and his refusal to criticize his father's outrageous anti-Semitism.

I saw nothing anti-semitic in the movie

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Originally posted by rizen I saw nothing anti-semitic in the movie

Read up about his father, and Mel's comments with regards to the newsletter/paper that his father puts out.

His father is one of those holocaust deniers who think that Jews are taking over the world. Mel has repeatedly refused to condemn of even disagree with his father's views. He also recently asserted that his wife was going to hell because she was a protestant.
The ultra-conservative catholic sect that he belongs to is also of some interest, they oppose all the Vatican II reforms, they really are stuck in the dark ages.

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Originally posted by arctic Read up about his father, and Mel's comments with regards to the newsletter/paper that his father puts out. His father is one of those holocaust deniers who think that Jews are taking over the world. Mel has repeatedly refused to condemn of even disagree with his father's views. He also recently asserted that his wife was going to hell because she was a protestant. The ultra-conservative catholic sect that he belongs to is also of some interest, they oppose all the Vatican II reforms, they really are stuck in the dark ages.

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Originally posted by rizo I saw nothing anti-semitic in the movie

Yes, but I was never talking about the movie.

I'm assuming that your comment about the movie was made under the assumption that my reference to Mel was in regards to the portrayal of Jews in the film. If not, then I'm lost.

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Originally posted by arctic Read up about his father, and Mel's comments with regards to the newsletter/paper that his father puts out. His father is one of those holocaust deniers who think that Jews are taking over the world. Mel has repeatedly refused to condemn of even disagree with his father's views. He also recently asserted that his wife was going to hell because she was a protestant. The ultra-conservative catholic sect that he belongs to is also of some interest, they oppose all the Vatican II reforms, they really are stuck in the dark ages.

Do you have the source on the Mel not disagreeing with his fathers views?

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Originally posted by priveye03 Do you have the source on the Mel not disagreeing with his fathers views?

When it comes to things like holocaust denial, sitting on the fence isn't good enough - dismissing a historical event of such magnitude as something that never happened is just wrong, and I think that if one of your friends started harping about how the September 11 attacks never really happened or that the war in Iraq never happened or that WWII never happened, you would probably feel the need to "correct" them.

I don't have a source on him "not disagreeing" with his father's views, but how could anyone have a source on that? However, if you look at the information that is available, you will see that most of them say he simply does not have a public statement on the matter, that he neither agrees nor disagrees. The point is that we don't have a source on him disagreeing either, which would be fine if people weren't demanding it and hadn't brought the issue into question, but they are and they did.

While it is true that Mel may not actively "agree" with his father, his lack of any public statement whatsoever on the matter would seem to indicate that he has something to hide. If anyone can find any evidence of Gibson publicly stating that he disagrees with things such as holocaust denial and blood libel, I will gladly retract my statement. Obviously one would not assume that a person is an anti-semite simply because they don't actively set out to prove that fact - however, once there is reason to "suspect" someone, once accusations are made, and once they then refuse to make any statements in their defense, they begin to look guilty.

Read this article: I don't have a lot of respect for Mel or his co-producers anymore after reading it. It doesn't have specific evidence of Mel as an anti-semite, but it doesn't cast him or his movie buddies in a very favourable light, either.

Personally I think this movie was a bad career move. But only time will tell.

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