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Originally posted by arctic Hey, if you define killing people as helping them, then I'm not going to argue with that.

Hey, remember you are talking to Nelly. If they die they will go to heaven and all their problems will magically dissapear.

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Originally posted by priveye03 Hey, remember you are talking to Nelly. If they die they will go to heaven and all their problems will magically dissapear.

Incorrect, sir. They are likely Muslim, which means they reject God

(remember, God = Christianity)

So even though they were completely innocent, and even though it was OUR bombs that blew their intestines out, decapitated little children's heads, and tore Grandma's limbs clean off, they are heathens regardless and are not really innocent per se. So who cares really? We didn't have time to proselytize them to Christianity, and they're just going to hell regardless.

Sooo, oh well!

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hardstyle what did you write in the first place and what did you write in reply?

The first reply was the letter what i got from bush , and my replies was be against the letter

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Originally posted by ViolentNature anybody but bush 2005.

Go Nader!

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Originally posted by arctic Hey, if you define killing people as helping them, then I'm not going to argue with that. Abstinence will never work, if you think that abstinence is a realistic goal, then there's something seriously wrong with you. In the west there's no need for it, sex is a healthy thing. As for Africa, whilst it would indeed help stop AIDS, it isn't going to happen.

I never said sex is unhealthy,did I? Sex is a healthy thing within marriage. Not with every tom,dick and harry.

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www.iraqbodycount.net

I'm not denying that civilians have died. But, Bush isn't going in and sweeping them all out like everyone seems to think. There will be civilian deaths, it's not pretty, but it happens.

We didn't go in to kill civilians,and we've done a pretty dang good job avoiding them.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 I never said sex is unhealthy,did I? Sex is a healthy thing within marriage.

Unsupported assertion. Since marriage is a man made institution, I can't see how sex outside of marriage is necessarily any different to sex within it.

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dick

Doesn't that word offend Jebus?

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I'm not denying that civilians have died. But, Bush isn't going in and sweeping them all out like everyone seems to think. There will be civilian deaths, it's not pretty, but it happens. We didn't go in to kill civilians,and we've done a pretty dang good job avoiding them.

Yes, civilians have died. Good, finally we agree on something. Yes, it does happen, as a direct result of the Bush administration's war on terror.

You don't seem to realize exactly how many Iraqi's have died as a direct result of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Once again, go to www.iraqbodycount.net, and look at the figure. If you define that as a 'pretty damn good job of avoiding them', then there's something seriously wrong with you.

I never claimed that the Coalition invaded Iraq to explicitly kill Iraqi civilians, but they knew that thousands of deaths would result. I hold the view that the US invaded for economic/strategic reasons, but that really doesn't matter in the long run. What does matter is the fact that they lied about their motives for invading Iraq, and because of this, thousands of people are dead.

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Originally posted by arctic Abstinence will never work, if you think that abstinence is a realistic goal, then there's something seriously wrong with you. In the west there's no need for it, sex is a healthy thing. As for Africa, whilst it would indeed help stop AIDS, it isn't going to happen.

China has a better solution than abstinence anyways.

India however is out of control and they have no clue how to properly manage a society in this matter. Remember, when a government fails to manage properly, the people lose.

Edit : Referring to overpopulation mainly, AIDS is called USE A CONDOM

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Originally posted by arctic Unsupported assertion. Since marriage is a man made institution, I can't see how sex outside of marriage is necessarily any different to sex within it.

Marriage isn't man made. Even if it was, sexual relations outside of marriage still isn't safe.

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Doesn't that word offend Jebus?

It's a nickname for Richard,get your mind out of the gutter.

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Yes, civilians have died. Good, finally we agree on something. Yes, it does happen, as a direct result of the Bush administration's war on terror.

Let me tell you something,if you didn't already know.
Saddam was killing his OWN people. We went in so that could stop.
Yes, civilians were killed in the war. But, that was totally not on purpose. It's happened in every war.

If you want to talk about killing Civilians,what about when Clinton had the cruise missle sent off, and hit and Asprin Factory?

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You don't seem to realize exactly how many Iraqi's have died as a direct result of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Once again, go to www.iraqbodycount.net, and look at the figure. If you define that as a 'pretty damn good job of avoiding them', then there's something seriously wrong with you.

Remind me, What happened on 9/11? What about those 3,000 civilians?

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I never claimed that the Coalition invaded Iraq to explicitly kill Iraqi civilians, but they knew that thousands of deaths would result. I hold the view that the US invaded for economic/strategic reasons, but that really doesn't matter in the long run. What does matter is the fact that they lied about their motives for invading Iraq, and because of this, thousands of people are dead.

They never lied about anything.

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Originally posted by arctic You don't seem to realize exactly how many Iraqi's have died as a direct result of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Once again, go to www.iraqbodycount.net, and look at the figure. If you define that as a 'pretty damn good job of avoiding them', then there's something seriously wrong with you.

Iraq war 1: 2,000 to 3,500source

Sept 11: 3000
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Afghanistan war: 3,000 - 3,400 [October 7, 2001 thru March 2002] civilian deaths.
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Iraq war 2: 8,400-13,000
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considering this, i do think that Nellie was right in saying that america did its best to avoid civilian casualties, which are after all inevitable.

when comparing gulf war 2, an invasion and occupation war, the numbers look anticipated when compared to more ariel attack wars such as gulf war 1 and the afghan war. to put this more into presepective, dont forget that germany and russia had millions of civilian deaths in WW2. The korean war caused about 1.5 million civ deaths and vietnam was also around 1 or 2 million.

talking about civilian casualites, when you compare american tactics to those of other countries in their wars forget about it. can you think of how many civilians died in the iran/iraq war? how about Congo, Chechneya, East Timor? all i promise are above this war.

The US definetly deserves some respect for the military practices it holds in trying to minimize as best as possible civilian deaths.

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