ya know i'm open to many opinions but when you said hella i completly rejected your argument. sorry, but that word is looked down upon so much here.

While I might complain about some of the trance classifications that Ishkur employs, this review is spot on. I've always felt Tiesto is a good producer. But he is a poor DJ who has shamelessly taken fame and run with it, much to the chagrin of some trance listeners. I, for one, find it embarrassing that the music I love has been reduced to this empty idolatry

Everyone who isn't buying the image is waiting for Tiesto to do an Oakenfold. The bloated fame can only last so long.

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And seriously, to anyone who makes this chronic mistake: if you fail to understand Ishkur's "Not Trance" category, you just don't get it. Quiet yourself until you do. I'm plain sick and tired of the ignorant whining.

Someone should send the author of that article some MDMA and a ticket to see Tiesto live and then have him tell us what he thinks of Tiesto afterwards!!! :rolling:

hahahaha

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While I might complain about some of the trance classifications that Ishkur employs, this review is spot on. I've always felt Tiesto is a good producer. But he is a poor DJ who has shamelessly taken fame and run with it, much to the chagrin of some trance listeners. I, for one, find it embarrassing that the music I love has been reduced to this empty idolatry

I actually think he's a better DJ than producer. In terms of technicality he's one of the better well known DJs, but lately he has fallen somewhat compared to his older stuff

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This article is bullshit. Ishkur doesn't even have the brains to realize those 3 hours are only a summary of a 8 hour long event. And how can he judge if people really danced and enjoyed themselves if he wasnt even there

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Originally posted by TranceGiant This article is bullshit. Ishkur doesn't even have the brains to realize those 3 hours are only a summary of a 8 hour long event. And how can he judge if people really danced and enjoyed themselves if he wasnt even there

Did you know that the rolleyes smiley instantly makes your post have relevant substance?

(Yep, definitely in a cynical mood.)

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Originally posted by Xquisite I actually think he's a better DJ than producer. In terms of technicality he's one of the better well known DJs, but lately he has fallen somewhat compared to his older stuff

I agree on that last part. His older mixes are better technically speaking, even though I like the substance of his newer mixes more.

He never particularly had a great knack at set structure, a flaw I'm willing to overlook given other strengths. But it seems that after about 2001 he started forgetting how to beatmatch too. Last I checked that was a prerequisite for the whole "Superstar DJ" thing.

Just another Tiesto hater he aint know the facts either. if they dont like tiesto dont listen to him.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Did you know that the rolleyes smiley instantly makes your post have relevant substance?

(Ain't I predictable)

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Originally posted by Breeze Just another Tiesto hater he aint know the facts either. if they dont like tiesto dont listen to him.

a) Comparing Ishkur to a trance listener with campy, unfounded allegiance or hatred to certain artists or DJs is incorrect and indicates to me that you haven't understood any of his reasoning. Campy, unfounded allegiance or hatred to certain genres, on the other hand...

b) He does know the "facts," whatever those are.

c) Ishkur is a critic of electronic music. Critics, by definition, critique. Film critics put out negative reviews of poor movies, in addition to positive reviews of good movies, because they are critics.

As someone else might say, "get a clue."