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Cable
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: South Africa

You are all missing the point, he just wants to know how to do it, because it adds atmosphere to a set... it's not like he's gonna make money out of it or anything he just wants to make a set and add some crowd cheering here and there to make it sound cool.

Paul Oakenfold did this on one of his cd's before, it sounds awesome even though the crowd is not real.

Also, maybe abt will share this set with us when he figures out how to do it right, which in the end benefits us!

Old Post Aug-18-2001 11:28  South Africa
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blighty
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Nijmegen, Holland
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Hi all,

Give ABT an anwser on his question!! He's just curious how he can add crowd noises to his mix. What's wrong with this,..??

Some people are just too serious!

Greetz,
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blighty
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Hi,

It's "anwser TO his question" Sorry, i'm Dutch

Greetz,
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Old Post Aug-18-2001 13:26  Netherlands
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HyPeRSoNiC
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Yavne, Israel

hey ABT,
I just want you to know that I never laughed at your idea. but I remember trying it once.... (I played a part of a Tiesto live set just for the crowd noise), and nobody payed attention to the crowd noises. they care about the music. not the backgroud noises. but, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with trying.
if you want to record a track of crowd noises, here's what you should do:
get all of your friends, neighbours, girlfriend, family, and tell each of them to bring their friends so that eventually you have.... ALOT of people . then, stuff them all in a studio room (you could rent a studio for recording), or if you don't have the money, just stuff them in a big room with a mic, or even a few mics, and just tell them to make noise!!!!! (make sure it's cheering noise... hehe)
and record it... and voila! you got crowd noise!!!

okay, I know it's a very stupid idea, and you don't have to use it. but I've never done anything like that.... and besides, got any better ideas?


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Trypsin
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: New Mexico

Get a live set with lots of space in it (I'm thinking along the lines of the beginning of Chicane at Palladium - 01.22.00) and copy the crowd noises from the dead spaces. Or you could probably get some great noise from any live recording of a rock concert (Blues Traveler - Live From The Fall comes to mind - check the endings of each track). Or even better yet, sneak a mini-cassette recorder into a party and record some shit with that - or have a friend come to one of your gigs with one and record what's going on out there. Just make a bunch of clips and you can probably fuck 'em around so they sound like one big mess 'o noise.

I did this for an intro to a promo mix cd that I made, essentially I just took the crowd noise from the beginning of Chicane's set, loaded it up into a sound editor and copied the sound twice - it was crowd noise fading in. Then I reversed the second copy and stuck the two together - the good thing about noise like that is that you can just slap two copies of the same thing together, make one of them backwards, and it still sounds just fine. Sure, if you listen REALLY HARD you can tell that the second half of the sample was a little screwy, but who's listening hard anyway, especially when you're playing stuff over it?

Good luck.

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ABTsportsline
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Rural WA, USA

THANK YOU!

My friends! I was wondering where all yall were.... anyways, yes, Cable and Blighty are correct, i am not searching to "cheat" anything, just my personal tastes i prefer the crowdnoise! Anyhow, yes hypersonic, noted on your suggestion (lol.... but i think that would be too much trouble! besides, i could just record the crowdnoise at the club i spin at...)

I think trypsin's idea is the best - take crowdnoise from a liveset, and loop it at given points in the set that i make...... granted, it would take a LOT of effort, but i'll give it a shot. I'll let you guys know how it came out.

Thanks a million for all the honest, reasonable answers guys!

-ABT-


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Tranzmit
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Melbourne

For fucks sake. God you all sound like a bunch of wannabe yahoo dj's or something. Just chill out!!

Ok ABT loop some audio of an live session and copy and paste it into say cool edit pro then go to both ends of the clip and make sure you click "go to next zero crossing" and then loop the selection. Then you could try sticking the loop through a reverb filter to get a warmer more live sound to it and then mix down the two tracks (the loop and the audio track.

Good luck


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Trypsin
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: New Mexico

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Originally posted by Tranzmit
For fucks sake. God you all sound like a bunch of wannabe yahoo dj's or something. Just chill out!!

Ok ABT loop some audio of an live session and copy and paste it into say cool edit pro then go to both ends of the clip and make sure you click "go to next zero crossing" and then loop the selection. Then you could try sticking the loop through a reverb filter to get a warmer more live sound to it and then mix down the two tracks (the loop and the audio track.

Good luck


Wow! Deja Vu! That's pretty much exactly what I said!

I guess great minds just think alike.


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Tranzmit
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Melbourne

If you reread the post again you'll see that main gist wasn't the loop as you already gave him that idea (even though it's as obvious as hell). the important thing is that he makes sure when he does do the looping that there aren't any clicks so if he does as i said and also finds the right part to loop he won't have problems with it sounding tinney or fake and then all he's gotta do is stick it through the reverb filter to the audio track to warm it up and it'll sound pretty good.


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HyPeRSoNiC
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Yavne, Israel
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yeah, guys.... I guess your ideas are better than mine.... ALOT less trouble.... lol
oh well.......


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mindshooter
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Hiding from Chuck Norris
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Actually i know the best way to do it....Turn your mic on......scream into it..as if you were on a big party...then you record once again and then you scream in another way...as if someone else did it...do this a couple of thousand times...and the put them all togheter...and Voila! You got your own crowd! Hope this isnt to much trouble!


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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

got a third channel?
hook up either a sampler or a pc (or a home-burnt cd with crowd noise on it)
you can use a crowd-sample and loop it and mix it in and out.... however for it not to get "boring" ya would need a long crowdsample....dunno where ya can get that....when crowds cheer they usually hear sumpin too
*use my third channel for blendin in vocal samples-->more fun*

btw, i don't enjoy a live-set for the crowdnoise....i enjoy it for the actual mixing
Greetz Pj

Old Post Aug-21-2001 22:28  Netherlands
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