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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

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Originally posted by occrider
You're not cool until you've had at least one online stalker troll.

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Originally posted by Cal
Dude I don't care about that.

Its the fact that you blindly follow FDAs regulations that bothers me. I mean, theres just so much bullshit they do, like that Bt New Leaf potato classification.

I mean, its a genetically modified potato with inscecticide in it. But under FDA regulations its not labeled as such. And WTF kind of game is that?

So you're willing to trust the advertising label of some crackpot privately-owned standards organization with a clear agenda to push its label and without any proven credibility, but not a long-standing regulatory body like the FDA?

In terms of genetically modified foods, they've been pushing to force people to label those foods as such, but like any new law/regulation, it just takes time to get it to happen. You can't bash the FDA because they didn't do it fast enough - they still have to go through political channels and lobbyist groups.

Even if the FDA was truly being negligent, I'd still rather listen to them than ad-men. At least the FDA isn't trying to sell us anything. "Organic" may not be as much of a gimmick as previous gimmicks like "all natural", but it is still an advertising gimmick.

Also a word of advice: when you decide to argue with someone, comments like "what a tool" generally don't give any credence to your point of view.


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Matt
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Registered: Nov 2001
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<<< TA resident produce clerk


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trancedfarmer
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington

Apples naturally have a waxy surface. No coating needed...

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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

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Originally posted by Mosaic
A thread about waxed apples turning into a flame war.wow, now I've seen everything.

you aint seen nothing yet *lobs a rotten apple at ur head

dignut has an online stalker lol

ontopic: i'd be more afraid of the pesticides sprayed on fruits and veggies than the wax


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butterfly
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: West CoCo, CA

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ontopic: i'd be more afraid of the pesticides sprayed on fruits and veggies than the wax


which again gives weight to the organic food thing..

and about the naturally waxey thing... REALLY? i am fascinated by this idea. seriously.

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trancedfarmer
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Location: Seattle, Washington

Im an organic farmer. SOON WE WILL ALL BE ORGANIC FARMERS!!!! MUAAHHHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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Im an organic farmer. SOON WE WILL ALL BE ORGANIC FARMERS!!!! MUAAHHHAHAHAHA!!!!!


what do you grow?

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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
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quote:
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Apples naturally have a waxy surface. No coating needed...

Tramcedfarmer


Yup

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Washington apples are known worldwide for their beauty and crunch. One of the reasons these apples are able to maintain their attractiveness and quality during transport and marketing is the thin coat of natural wax applied in the warehouse.


Freshly harvested apples have their own waxy coating that protects them from shriveling and weight loss. Apples are washed at the fruit packing sheds to remove dust and chemical residues. This washing removes about half of the original apple wax which is replaced by a natural coating.


The natural wax added to protect Washington apples is usually carnauba or shellac. Both are approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and have been used on a variety of foods for decades. These wax formulations are natural, non-petroleum based coatings.


Whether natural or applied, wax may whiten on the surface of fruits or vegetables if they have been subjected to excessive heat and/or excessive moisture. This whitening or chalky appearance is similar to that of a candy bar when you place it in the freezer.


Research has shown that apple waxing prevents moisture loss, enhances firmness retention and slows down the apple respiration rate.


In the most recent study conducted at the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Agricultural Research Service Laboratory in Wenatchee, Wash., Red Delicious apples from Controlled Atmosphere (CA) storage were held at room temperature for eight days (duplicating how apples are treated in grocery stores). The unwaxed apples lost firmness faster than the waxed apples.


A second study showed the waxed apples also had less weight loss after eight days at room temperature. Research horticulturists from the USDA report "the use of wax on Red Delicious apples improved firmness and color, and reduced weight loss."


Other varieties of apples have also been shown to benefit from waxing.


All Washington apples are thoroughly washed and rinsed before they are waxed. Pesticide residues remaining must meet all food safety standards set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.


According to new U.S. Food and Drug Administration rules effective May 1994, retailers must list coated produce they sell in their produce department. Apples are frequently on the list which may include up to 21 other produce items that may have wax applied to them.


Some historians report wax has been used on produce since the early 1920s, but other experts say fruits and vegetables were waxed by housewives long before that to improve storage life.


As little as one pound of waxy coating will cover approximately 160,000 pieces of fruit and vegetables, according to the United Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Association. Only a drop or two of wax is needed to give a Washington apple a shiny, protective coating and help keep the crunch to the last bite.
http://www.bestapples.com/facts/waxing.html



What do you people think they melt candles over fruit or something?


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jdat
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Registered: Oct 2001
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Get your apples in bulk and they're not coated with wax usually.

When I used to work in a produce store it was only the top brands that were waxed ( They were boxed and contained say 40/60 apples; and they can be purchased boxed directly or sometimes they have these emptied into displays in stores ). The real stuff is pallet size wood crates these things would hold I don't know ... 100's of pounds of apples and they were not waxed; and then the store prepacks it or they put it on display so customers can bag them according to choice.More common in "farmers" markets.

I miss the days of working in the produce store because of all the food fights and obviously all the "free" fruit and stuff ( 6 months of working there made me go insane so I just quit )...


My top 3 apples :
McIntosh
Fuji
Gala

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Matt
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Fuji + Ambrosia > All


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
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quote:
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What do you people think they melt candles over fruit or something?

I thought it was Turtle Wax!


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jdat
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I thought it was Turtle Wax!


wouldn't even amaze me

The wax on apples tastes nasty

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