I find it easier to beatmatch using the hi-hats rather than the bass anyway... A lot of the time, DJ headphones and mixers muddy the bass quite a bit, making it inaccurate and therefore spoiling the mix. Higher frequencies (e.g. hi-hats and synths) don't tend to suffer from this as much.

I think it's important to be able to use both types of mixer however. You never know what mixers you will run into when playing out, and if you are only really capable of using a mixer where the eq's don't change, or vice versa, then you will end up doing a crap set.

I always find the answers on such threads amusing. It's like half the people try to justify why their system is the best.

For god's sake, if people prefer it without EQ changes in the phones, then so be it (I myself was used to hearing eq changes in the phones, but had to adjust because the Xone:62 cue is pre EQ. Now really, I prefer that...).

Some Vestax mixers have that, but not all, it's just a matter of asking to the vendor. You'll want to ask if the cue is pre eq (EQ doesn't affect phones), or post (it affects).

The Xone range is the best example of this. If you want the choice, the Xone:92 has a selector switch. But of course, this mixer is out of the price range for most of you.

The Vestax pmc-170a mixer i used to have can do wut u want, and has the option of hearing eq changes in the phones. I'm not too sure if its newer versions(pcv-175, 180) come equipped with it or not, but just a suggestion since thats the thing u're looking for plus it is a better mixer for trance by far (How the hell can u use an pmc-06 to mix!? It's possible, but u run the risk of cutting up your finger tips everytime u do a knob tweak!).

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why would you not want eq changes in the headphones? im very confused.. buy some oldschool battle mixer if you dont want it

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Originally posted by Dj Thy I always find the answers on such threads amusing. It's like half the people try to justify why their system is the best. For god's sake, if people prefer it without EQ changes in the phones, then so be it (I myself was used to hearing eq changes in the phones, but had to adjust because the Xone:62 cue is pre EQ. Now really, I prefer that...). Some Vestax mixers have that, but not all, it's just a matter of asking to the vendor. You'll want to ask if the cue is pre eq (EQ doesn't affect phones), or post (it affects). The Xone range is the best example of this. If you want the choice, the Xone:92 has a selector switch. But of course, this mixer is out of the price range for most of you.

OH MY GOD!!! Someone actually understood what i was getting at! its all preference! And you gave me exactly what i was looking for... Xone:92... i have been looking for a high quality mixer that has the pre eq... it seams that most people (in the thread) think that it is better to have the phones post eq. I have used both for a long time but have never heard any talk about it on the forum until i posted about it. so i was just looking for a good mixer and how others like, dislike what they have etc. I myself am a perfectionist and want things the way i like them. in this case its pre eq. some people also like to think of pre eq as cheep mixers when i know thats not true! i.e. A&H Xone:92! looks like a great mixer just never got to try it yet. and yes people always turn questions into a pissing contest of what they have is better of what they do is better even after i said its all PREFERENCE! yet another reason why i dont post often! thanks for the info on the Xone:92... you know what your talking about and it shows you understand where im coming.

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Originally posted by BeatSMiTH (How the hell can u use an pmc-06 to mix!? It's possible, but u run the risk of cutting up your finger tips everytime u do a knob tweak!).

The first time i looked at it i was like but after i used it for an hour or so i got use to it. it actualy creates very smooth mixes due to it only having highs and low nobs. the mids are kinda split into the highs and lows so if forces you to handle the eqs with caution. hey you gota adapt to the situation. and its a quality mixer just not the best for trance! i want to get something like the Xone so i can hook it up in the club if needed.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 OH MY GOD!!! Someone actually understood what i was getting at! its all preference! And you gave me exactly what i was looking for... Xone:92... i have been looking for a high quality mixer that has the pre eq... it seams that most people (in the thread) think that it is better to have the phones post eq. I have used both for a long time but have never heard any talk about it on the forum until i posted about it. so i was just looking for a good mixer and how others like, dislike what they have etc. I myself am a perfectionist and want things the way i like them. in this case its pre eq. some people also like to think of pre eq as cheep mixers when i know thats not true! i.e. A&H Xone:92! looks like a great mixer just never got to try it yet. and yes people always turn questions into a pissing contest of what they have is better of what they do is better even after i said its all PREFERENCE! yet another reason why i dont post often! thanks for the info on the Xone:92... you know what your talking about and it shows you understand where im coming.

Yeah, the Xone:92 leaves you the choice. It has a pre/post switch.
The Xone:62/464 have pre as standard (don't remember for the 02/32/V6 though), but it can be switched internally. The 92 is the best of both worlds as you can see.
As it stands, the 92 is probably the most powerful mixer in the world. Still I'm happy with my 62, I can't find anything yet to justify the switch to a 92.

my mate has a Behringer VMX300. there are standard treble mid bass controls that effect the headphones and the output but there are also kill switches for treble mid and bass that will only effect the output, not the headphones. not saying its a good mixer, just that it has this function.

the a&h xone:32 can be modified such that cueing is pre-eq.