i say it's an advantage more than a disadvantage. I mixed at a party this weekend that had a 2x4 setup, and one of the mixers was a vestax pmc05. I hated not being able to hear the eq changes and it made me assume the eq was fine until i faded it over and blah!!! crap! no bass, bright highs! Give me my damn Rane!!!

As for behringer, they're not bad but not to good either. I personally try to avoid every product they make. All they seem to do is copy designs from other companies and screw them up somehow. If you can, spend a little more and get a solid mixer, not solid crap.

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I have owned one since October and it has never given me any problems. It is a great mixer for home use.

I don't really understand this need for some people to buy really expensive mixers for their home setups. Sure it is going to sound better, but it won't make much difference until you put it on a large soundsystem. In my 5+ years of playing out, I have only had to bring my own equipment a few times. Most of the time the club will have their own setup, or some other person will be suckered into bringing his (harsh, but it's the truth). My equipment stays safely in my bedroom, away from smoke, dust, and drunk clubbers.

On another note: Do you know how many records I could buy with the money saved by getting the DJX700 instead of the DJM600. That alone makes up for anything lacking in the Behringer model.

If you are buying a mixer to take to parties and use, then you should get something like a pioneer, or a rane; but if you are a beginner, or someone who doesn't play out yet, or play at gigs with a setup provided, then the Behringer is a great buy.

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Originally posted by punchline I have owned one since October and it has never given me any problems. It is a great mixer for home use. I don't really understand this need for some people to buy really expensive mixers for their home setups. Sure it is going to sound better, but it won't make much difference until you put it on a large soundsystem. In my 5+ years of playing out, I have only had to bring my own equipment a few times. Most of the time the club will have their own setup, or some other person will be suckered into bringing his (harsh, but it's the truth). My equipment stays safely in my bedroom, away from smoke, dust, and drunk clubbers. On another note: Do you know how many records I could buy with the money saved by getting the DJX700 instead of the DJM600. That alone makes up for anything lacking in the Behringer model. If you are buying a mixer to take to parties and use, then you should get something like a pioneer, or a rane; but if you are a beginner, or someone who doesn't play out yet, or play at gigs with a setup provided, then the Behringer is a great buy.

I bought one really expensive mixer in place of 3 cheap mixers all of which had died. I feel it's better to buy a single mixer that's gonna last many years than to buy a cheapo every year or so knowing that there's a good chance it's gonna crap out on me. Of course, im the same way when it comes with turntables. I learned my lesson from the stanton str8-100. (pitch fader took a shit, so did it's phono preamp)

And in case your wondering, i do take care of my gear. However, It doesn't collect dust at my place.

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I have only owned two mixers previous to this one. One was a Stanton RM-3s. It held up for a good long time and I ended up selling it to a friend. The one previous to that was a really cheap 2 channel that I bought because I wanted to start right away. Thanks to eBay, I have spent probably 500 dollars on mixers. Quite a bit less than the price of a single Pioneer that would be pretty old by now if I had bought one when I first started mixing.

My point is that I see the exorbitant prices of some of these mixers on the market as a rip off. The Xone92 being a prime example. For turntables I can understand needing Technics or the newer Numarks, because their operation is vital to proper mixing technique. But someone can be a very sucessful DJ with a less than top of the line mixer, and still be able to pay rent.

Edit: I just wanted to add my story of why I never take my own equipment to gigs. Back in 99, I was playing house and some hip-hop at the time. I got a gig at a house party through one of my friends who had been setting up parties around the area for a while.

This party was in a large basement. It was also a very old basement, because when people would walk around upstairs, a cloud of dust would descend from the rafters. One nice partygoer spilt her beer on the table where my equipment was, so my equipment was sitting in a puddle of beer for the rest of the night. What a fun time that was.

I decided after that event, that it really wasn't worth it to take my equipment to parties like that.

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true, a good mixer doesn't make a bad dj good. And a cheap mixer doesn't make a good dj bad. There are many good mixers that don't cost an arm and a leg. ecler's concept series are a prime example. Origionally i was gonna keep my rm3-s and try to rma it for repair. Just a few friends pressured me into buying the empath and i haven't regret it. IMO id rather spend the money and get something that will last than wasting more $$$ in the long run buying more replacement budget mixers. My goal is when i turn old i will still have my 1200s and empath in usable condition. I can then show my kids/grandkids how us old timers did it.

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I agree that ecler's are great mixers for a pretty good price. If this DJX ever does go bad on me (I don't really expect it too) that will probably be what I buy.

My main complaint is people who tell beginners to only buy a pioneer, or the Xone and that there are no other good mixers on the market, simply because that is what they heard other people say. There are tons of good affordable mixers out there. And they will last a surprisingly long time if taken care of. Behringer is probably middle of the road as far as they go. Not amazing, but will do a good job for the price.

Agree, for someone just starting out i recomend a no thrills mixer. One that doesn't have effects and definately one that does NOT HAVE A BPM COUNTER. might i recomend a Stanton smx-501. They now have them on sale here at GC for $200. When i was waiting for my rane, ppl at GC were cool enough to lend me one for the week b/c i was w/o a mixer. Not a bad deal, good P&G x-fader, good eq, vu meters on each channel, good sound quality for a stanton, crap, if i could of gotten that stanton for 200 then i would of bought it and had $$$ left over for more vinyl. lol

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I have this mixer and it is pretty solid.

It has basically the same features as teh DJM. But at $199USD you cant beat it.

As to the sound, Pioneer mixers sound like shit as well. If your going to spend that kind of money on a mixer get something that sounds half decent and go with either a Xone:62 or a high end Rane.

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