Realized this difference the moment I got the mp3.
Damn, and I bought the vinyl hoping that it was the unreleased version, which it of course wasn't.
I later found out it wasn't gonna get released :/
The unreleased ISOS3/Dutch Dimension version owns the released one.

The Tiësto remix on my vinyl even fades out like atleast one minute before it ends :/ The Perfecto release...

Btw, I heard a 2004 remix of Southern Sun some weeks ago.
And it was reallly nice! That's all I remember really... think there were some guitars in it too.

Tracklist here:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=162036

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Above & Beyond pres. Unkle Petter - So Many Faces
Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Tiësto "Dutch" Remix)
AvB vs Laura Jansen - Coming Home vs Use Somebody (AvB Mashup)
Jose Amnesia - Louder (AvB Edit)
AvB - Fine Without You + Hold On To Me (Full Ext. 12" Mix)
Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (AvB Remix)

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frostdude1 wrote: Just because Deadmau5 has no class, you don't have to associate Tijs with him.

Last edited by KrissO on Nov-14-2011 at 12:10

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Now this is something I don't understand. The difference of the lyrics of the released and unreleased mix are about 2 words... doesn't really make much of a difference.

I've wondered this too, especially since the difference has seemed significant to me from day one.

There are a few reasons I found, foremost being the tone of the vocal run itself. Even though only some of the lyrics were changed, Carla Werner had to sing the entire vocal over again (multiple times, I'm sure) to get a new cut, possibly for multiple mixes.

I have an old-lyrics demo rip of the Gabriel & Dresden Remix, and this seems to confirm my suspicions. The vocal is decidedly different from that of the released version, in more ways than just the lyrics. I see no reason why the Tiesto remix would be any different in this regard, and indeed, it sounds different to me (taking the higher BPM into account, by the way).

It's also worth noting that I've isolated additional vocal effects in the Tiesto and Gabriel & Dresden liveset rips that are not included in the final release of either. The Tiesto tweaked the end of "insincerity", and the background 'vocal howl' in the Gabriel & Dresden demo mix is unmistakable (cue Dave Dresden posting and saying 'you're wrong.' )

The best way I can put it is that the unreleased vocals have soul. The released ones, well, don't. They sound emptier in emotion and delivery.

Yeah like...
Released: "Southern suuuuun"
Unreleased: "Sincerityy-yy"

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Most wanted:
Above & Beyond pres. Unkle Petter - So Many Faces
Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Tiësto "Dutch" Remix)
AvB vs Laura Jansen - Coming Home vs Use Somebody (AvB Mashup)
Jose Amnesia - Louder (AvB Edit)
AvB - Fine Without You + Hold On To Me (Full Ext. 12" Mix)
Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (AvB Remix)

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frostdude1 wrote: Just because Deadmau5 has no class, you don't have to associate Tijs with him.

But back to my original point, nobody's heard this track yet but me?? It is different, but really good.

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Do you have a sample? :/

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Originally posted by CraveTheRave But back to my original point, nobody's heard this track yet but me?? It is different, but really good.

I don't know if i've heard it. But that was the point of my post... could be the same as the one I heard (although I doubt)

But yeah, try get a sample ?

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Above & Beyond pres. Unkle Petter - So Many Faces
Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Tiësto "Dutch" Remix)
AvB vs Laura Jansen - Coming Home vs Use Somebody (AvB Mashup)
Jose Amnesia - Louder (AvB Edit)
AvB - Fine Without You + Hold On To Me (Full Ext. 12" Mix)
Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (AvB Remix)

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frostdude1 wrote: Just because Deadmau5 has no class, you don't have to associate Tijs with him.

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Originally posted by KrissO I don't know if i've heard it. But that was the point of my post... could be the same as the one I heard (although I doubt) But yeah, try get a sample ?

Can't get a sample. But if you go to the Radio 1 site to listen to their past week, click on Jules' and it's at the 17:50 mark (as in 5:50PM, not 17:50 minutes in).

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Tiesto's mix of Southern Sun is one of my all time favourite classics!!! I have many fond memories of playing this to some awesome reactions!!!

I heard the Mix Jules played and i was very dissappointed... The vocal sounded out of time imo and other than the vocal, it is nothing really like SS...

Shame to start bootlegging a track that is only a couple of years old anyway imo...

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Originally posted by CraveTheRave Can't get a sample. But if you go to the Radio 1 site to listen to their past week, click on Jules' and it's at the 17:50 mark (as in 5:50PM, not 17:50 minutes in).

Didn't get to hear it but just got confirmed that the remix played at the show (at the tracklisting I pasted earlier) is the same one as the one you mentioned.
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=162036
At the bottom of Neo & Farina's set.

Fatkid - Southern Sun is btw a production/remix by Neo & Farina himself
I really liked this remix

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Most wanted:
Above & Beyond pres. Unkle Petter - So Many Faces
Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Tiësto "Dutch" Remix)
AvB vs Laura Jansen - Coming Home vs Use Somebody (AvB Mashup)
Jose Amnesia - Louder (AvB Edit)
AvB - Fine Without You + Hold On To Me (Full Ext. 12" Mix)
Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (AvB Remix)

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frostdude1 wrote: Just because Deadmau5 has no class, you don't have to associate Tijs with him.

This new remix is now on vinyl and you can buy it @ Juno.co.uk
They have a short sample on the site for those who want to listen.
It's pretty average, but I need to have a proper listen to fully judge it.

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Dont think its that special either.

Heres the juno sample:

http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF143233-01-01-01.mp3

Southern Sun (Fluffy Unimaginative Dutch Trance Epic Riff Remix)

Total gash. An embarassment to the original. Completely loses the mood of the song and strips everything creative away to replace it with the most generic elements possible.