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hey cheggy
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia

Sorry mate, I thought the price was 350 for the 720s with free shipping. No, Dan is not my name, Dan is the name of the guy in the leprechaun song I made. I don't know Dan from Dcoda but I know Dan from Woollstonecraft.

I don't know about the 2031a. I've bought Behringer before and I refuse to buy from them again. I just think that you should be a little weary of them.


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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

quote:
Originally posted by hey cheggy
Sorry mate, I thought the price was 350 for the 720s with free shipping. No, Dan is not my name, Dan is the name of the guy in the leprechaun song I made. I don't know Dan from Dcoda but I know Dan from Woollstonecraft.

I don't know about the 2031a. I've bought Behringer before and I refuse to buy from them again. I just think that you should be a little weary of them.


Dan from dcoda (a trance group) was this nice guy who helped me out a lot when I was first starting out.. he helped me VIA ICQ (when ppl used it) with any questions I had and such.. he was from sydney and his site went down a couple years ago and I have no idea if he still makes music or not.. just thought it was worth a try

if you find any thing out about the 2031As, let me know..


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trancenrg69
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Registered: Mar 2003
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Producers who use the B2031's and are signed and have tracks played by top djs (tiesto, pvd, etc..)




http://www.estuera.com/

http://www.octagen-music.com/index.php?id=paul.html

http://www.midor-six4eight.com/

so it is possible to make good tracks on these.

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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Well I'll post the standard response, I got them, I'm happy about them. They haven't let me down either.

Yes it's true, the highs are a little strident, but that is the case with most titanium dome tweeters (if you want "natural" highs, you need soft dome tweeters).
Stereo imaging is great too, but they need to be in a nice accoustic space too. Even though they are ported, I don't find the bass to be too pronounced, they still retain a good amount of punch.

I'd say their sound is more suited for punch music, so producing trance would be no problem. I've even recorded and mixed classical music with good results, so I can't say they are a bad buy. I agree for most things Behringer can make absolute crap, but on some occasions they get it pretty right (of course you can't compare it with Genelecs the same size (2029 being much smaller), then again they cost 3x as much).

But the main problem I see is that you can't go and test them. You see, monitors are a personal thing. Your hearing is different from mine, and from everyone else. Buying monitors on other people's recommendations isn't really a good idea. You should at all cost try to find a shop somewhere and do comparative listenings, because otherwise you could come up with bad surprises...

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CandyRaver666
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Hiding

Seriously, without joking about the genelecs, what you should buy is dependant upon what you're really trying to do.

If you want to dabble in music and maybe make something cool sounding while playing games and watching DVDs, then buy the Behringers. That's all you're ever going to need. And when you do want to make music, they will sound okay.

But if you're focused on making music - really seriously making music, then buy the M1s. But don't just buy these if you want to dabble, because you'll just feel like you wasted the money down the line.

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Design
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: London, Canada

It's true what trancenrg69 said. You have to learn your monitors and how they translate to other systems in order to mix your material properly.
But, I had an experience with B2031A Truth monitors and there are some things you must now before you decide to go for these.
Letter A after B2031 means that these are active so you don't need a separate amplifier. Just plug them in and you're set to go.
Truths are not bad speakers but I would not call them reference monitors since it's hard to distinguish between different frequencies especially below 100Hz. And you now what that means for trance. Distinct low frequency in trance is a must, but to sound crisp, punchy, deep and tight you have to have a system that will allow you to hear it. The Truths are not good in this department, period. Also, some of the higher frequencies are overexaggerated making it hard to judge how much of those sparkly highs you need.
If you worked with these speakers for a long period of time, you could probably get used to them and would produce good sounding mixes, but I remember when I got a hold of Dynaudio's after producing with Truths, my ears opened up and my mixes started having pristine clarity and just enough bass to rock the club. It's just so easy and pleasant to work with reference monitors that you don't notice how much time passed. I can spend 8 hours listening to Dynaudio's and there is no ear fatigue, which I can not say for the Truths.
Also, beware of Behringer company. I had my right tweeter blown after a year of using the Truths and was never able to replace it. Their customer support sucks. It's like the company does not exist. But, that's just my experience, maybe somebody else had a better one.
When looking to purchase studio monitors, ask yourself what your goal is. Is this your hobby or is this something where you want to try and give your best? Because if your goal is to produce awesome sounding tracks, you can't have a weak link in your audio chain, starting with the sound source and ending with the monitors.
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hexadecimal
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago, IL

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Genelec 2029APM
$1205.88

I sure hope they sound better

Any other suggestions/reviews..

Mackie HR824 and HR624 monitors sound very close to comparable Genelecs for quite a bit less.

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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

quote:
Originally posted by Design
Letter A after B2031 means that these are active so you don't need a separate amplifier.


That's what I thought at first, but check out the Behringer website..

http://www.behringer.com/B2031A/index.cfm?lang=ENG

http://www.behringer.com/B2031/index.cfm?lang=ENG

they are two distinct monitors, both active.

For the time being, this is just a hobby for me. Perhaps after I get out of college I will invest more $$ into producing music. Not only that, but as much as studio monitors will help to give me a pro sound, my producing skills will still be 90% of that. My production skills should be worked on more before I put a lot of $$ into producing

The dynaudio's are a bit out of my price range. Do you have any suggestions for the $100-$300 price range?

A couple that I've found:
Event TR5
M-Audio BX5


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auujay
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland

quote:
Originally posted by hexadecimal
Mackie HR824 and HR624 monitors sound very close to comparable Genelecs for quite a bit less.


A friend of mine had a pair of Mackie HR824 with the matched sub. Holy shit they sounded so hot! Admitedly I have not heard a lot of speakers in thie price range but I was really blown away with how these sounded. And they get loud loud loud and still sound good I can't really comment on how effective they are for producing but spinning on them is great.


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alanzo
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anyone have experience with the Event TR5s? Is the bass good on them?


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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

I got a nice deal on a pair of TR6s if anyone cares

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=23786


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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Beantown

quote:
anyone have experience with the Event TR5s? Is the bass good on them?


I had a pair.

No, it isn't. Go for the 8s.


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