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Originally posted by Psy-T i would be very happy to see hoxton whores for example using parts of a track i made and releasing it on white, even more-so if it would have been called something like 'hoxton whores vs psy-t - dont ask' or whatever

I'd be pretty damn pissed off if someone stole something I had slaved over, and passed it off as their own. If they ask, that's an entirely different story.

Bear in mind, unless someone knows the song you're stealing from, they're going to think it is your own, original material.

Repeat after me, kids: sampling someone else's work is stealing.

Again:

sampling = stealing

Is that a little more clear?

i would be complimented if someone "stole" my work and made success out of it. But i can see where both sides of the arguments points lay. and im neutral. its certainly not unethical tho. just somewhat cheeky. if i was u i wouldnt bother gettin it pressed. If you want people to hear it then send some cdrs out to some djs, judge jules on radio 1 in uk wil play it if its good. that way your not making any money, not breaking any laws and yet still having ur music played and appriciated. It takes alot of skill to remix a rock song well

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get 200 pressed
Get them in a few stores- maybe send them to a few big jocks or a promo/plugging company
Set up a hotsnail account- [email protected] or whatever, plain white with just the email address.

You will make a few £ probably if they sell, and might get some airplay or a play in a big name djs set-

How do ou think things like LMC/u2 got released- they originated as white label bootlegs, interest and demand made the publishers+groups take some interest and do an official release- in the case of the baove example- they re did the vocal when clearence was refused- so no its not unethical. So it might end up getting you signed- its happened before.


Get on it!

Cheers for the advice, ill sort it out but was thinking about playing it to the distrubutors on cdr before getting it pressed. Is it likely they'l take some of my hands does anybody know? N how much do you rekon ill be able to get for each record, considering it'l be single sided n white label?

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i have to say.. i think this is a bad idea. u havnt taken into account things like mastering for one thing. if its not perfect then ull have all sorts of problems like the needle not sitting in the grove and the frequencies being all wrong in a club. i would look into it properly. dont waste money doing sumin like this. y not release a tune of ur own? i think its dodgey

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Thats the best idea,i agree,do somethign fo your own and dont have this hassle,keep that remix for your own personal use

put your own track on the b side or as a second track on the a side- nothing to lose by doing it, and everything to gain.

Pro mastering isnt expensive for what you get (and you get a funky glass master in a box to keep )- porkys on shaftesbury avenue is the best in my personal opinion- they do a lot of pro stuff for big acts.

As for pressing, you are looking for 200 copies at a few hundred quid.

Most white bootlegs sell for about £7 upwards, but thats retail- the shops will buy them in for about £4 ish each- try getting hard to find to stock it or some other shops with a high profile.

Its a great feeling having your first pressing (001) in your hands

I'd have to agree with Skytribe...

Its one thing to borrow a style or "sound" from a band to implement in your tune. Its another thing to sample directly from the song. I dont know what the rule is for how long a sample can be before its stealing... ever hear a song that you thought was something else at first and then realized the song was only borrowing the "sound"? Trying to incorporate a specific guitar riff or a vocal line without permission is wrong. Identifying and using the same sounding instrumentation for your own slightly different tune is quite alright...afterall, imitation is the best form of flattery!

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