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Originally posted by igottaknow I guess you've never been a juror. You're given very specific instructions on what you can and can't consider. The punishment for a crime is also out of your hands. Juries do the best they can to provide justice in the frame work they're allowed to operate in. "Justice"? Sounds like you've been reading too many John Grisham novels.

You can disregard any or all those instructions at your discretion.

But don't take my word for it:

http://www.fija.org/

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Originally posted by Arbiter You can disregard any or all those instructions at your discretion.

Ok I learned something new today "Jury Nullification". Well it's a doubled edge sword. From what I just read, it was used in the 50's to acquit white racists in the south, but also could be used to ignore unjust laws. I think it falls into the category of a soldier right to disobey his commanding officer if it violates the rules of war. It's obviously a power that should be used sparingly otherwise chaos would ensue.

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Originally posted by Yoepus What? What?? I didn't say nothing

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Originally posted by Yoepus Do most jobs have to give you a paid leave for jury duty, because ours simply do not?

I was merely answering your question.

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aka Chesty LaRue
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the day i turned 18 was election day, and not voting in Australia is illegal. a month later i got my jury summons *yay*

I found the judicial system to be extremely slow, after sitting in a room for several hours i was finally summoned to the courtroom. The case was a 45 year old man who raped a 16 year old boy multiple times, 2 years before i was born. Unfortunately I was dismissed before i got to make my big scene at pointing out the irony on swearing the truth on a book of lies

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Arbiter And so juries are stocked with mindless, ignorant automatons. The lawyers each try to manipulate the jury, and whoever is the better manipulator wins. Somewhere along the way, the concept of justice got lost.

To take further advantage of the idiots in the jury are the top tier Lawyers that are also trained hypnotists. They use persuasion (manipulation) techniques like pace and lead, where the lawyer points out undisputed and banal truths to the jury, which are then followed by a priori evidence, and finished up with conjecture. The banality of the lawyers initial argument is a powerful catalyst when mixed with jurors that have an attention span of fish, and who are more interested on what they will be served for lunch than the judicial process.

A voice roll technique is also used by these lawyers, their voices have been trained to sound as if the speaker were talking to the beat of a metronome (between 45 and 60 bpm - average heart rate) or they emphasize every word in a monotonous, patterned style

Suggestability is increased and judgement is impaired.

Politicians also do this:
Pace and Lead eg.
Saddam is a murderer (Pace)
He has murdered thousands of his own people (Pace)
Saddam is an imminent threat to the USA (Lead)

Carefully planned speach and you have duped the masses

I have to hand it to the Christians though, the psychology of brainwashing is one area of science where they excel

If you're interested the Brainwashing Manual by L.Ron Hubbard is an interesting read